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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:19 PM
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Why do we assume Obama will want a second term?
I think at his age he should make all the changes he needs to now and then step aside and see how they will workout.

His time is now and a second term would be a drudge.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:20 PM
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1. Because once you've sat in the Big Chair, you don't want to give it up. To get there
takes a huge amount of work, ambition, arrogance and energy. Those things don't change.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 11:10 PM
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18. Unless you're Jim Polk. He went in saying he only wanted one term; he laid out
what he wanted to do in that one term, got it done in one term, and walked away.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 11:25 PM
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19. VERY different time. nt
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:21 PM
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2. Why wouldn't he want a second term?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:22 PM
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3. he's an ambitious politician
they virtually all want second terms.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:23 PM
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4. Wrong... on so many counts.. the first tem is just setting the base
to build on in the second term
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:26 PM
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2nd terms are largely disapointments
Ideologically and by accomplishments

The minute you are re-elected people in your own party start posturing to take your place.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:52 PM
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14. That would be awfully presumptuous
to spend his first term "setting the base" and think the public is going to GIVE him a second.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:24 PM
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5. You sure don't understand politicians do you?
The only time they don't run in the second term is when they know they'll lose. That's what made LBJ so smart. He knew his goose was cooked.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:25 PM
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6. If he doesn't give the public what they want on healthcare it could be moot.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:26 PM
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7. What % of first-termers DON'T try for a second term? (And death doesn't count.)
Edited on Sat Jun-27-09 09:28 PM by BlooInBloo
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:37 PM
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10. Only 4 actually refused to run for a second term.
Edited on Sat Jun-27-09 09:37 PM by NYC Liberal
15 ran and weren't successful.

19 ran for a second term and won.

5 died before their first term was up.

That's 43. Obama is still in his first term.

Odds are, he'll run.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:42 PM
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11. And that's the end of this thread.
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Recovered Repug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 11:38 PM
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21. Ok, I'll bite. Who are the 4?
Truman and Johnson are the ones that I could think of.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 04:34 AM
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24. Both of them had more than one full term
Truman had most of FDR's fourth term, Johnson had a bit less than half of Kennedy.s
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:30 AM
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30. The last one who didn't try for a second term was Hayes in 1880. n/t
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:31 PM
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8. In eight years the children will be mature enough so their mother can become president.
Someone has to be groomed to take his place and it sure as hell will not be Biden.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 05:39 PM
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37. If Michelle Obama ever runs for President I'll eat my shoe. It ain't going to happen. n/t
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:46 PM
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12. Are you a republican?
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:47 PM
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13. Anything's possible. nm
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 09:58 PM
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15. Even better:
He could make all the changes he wants in 6 months, and then resign, because it's all doable by then, and there isn't much point in sticking around after his work's done!
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 10:15 PM
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16. a "drudge"? Hmmm... freudian slip?
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 10:49 PM
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17. Is this a serious question?
:wtf:

The reasoning makes no sense to me.

"Make all the changes he needs to"? The President doesn't run the country in a vacuum and can't just make laws.

Unless you want him to step aside so another Democrat can try to have a turn? Again, why should he or WOULD he?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 11:27 PM
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20. Such a fucked up OP.
Why should he be different from the overwhelming majority of Presidents?

Thank Gawd you're in not charge.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 11:44 PM
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22. Are you kidding?
Obama not wanting to stay in power? That'll be the day.......

:eyes:
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:00 AM
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23. hahahahaha
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 05:11 AM
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25. If Obama were to finish everything in 4 years...
just for the sake of discussion, then if he had nothing to do but to take a vacation for the following 4 years, I'd vote for Obama to take the well deserved vacation for 4 years!
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camera obscura Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:40 AM
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26. Because he's still in contact with his election team (Plouffe, Axelrod, etc)
The signs are all there, IMO.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:44 AM
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27. Yep, and there's this little thing called "Organizing for America"....
... the whole point of which .... and the reason why Plouffe stayed behind in Chicago was to keep the Obama machine limber. If we have been calling and working hard to get legislation passed for four years, working to get him re-elected will be all that much easier.

The President said he had no intention of running his '12 campaign office from out of the White House.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:47 AM
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28. Obama has an ambitious agenda, he would not get all he wants done in 4 years
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 07:47 AM by Jennicut
Then again, he could be sick of it all in 4 years, who knows? Stranger things have happened. Being President ages you, big time. But he is young enough that I think he could handle another term and would want one too. If he is still as popular leading up to the next election then a reelection effort would not be that hard, either. There is not much competition the Rethug side right now.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 09:01 AM
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29. Because anyone w/an ego that wants to be Prez.... wants to be Prez AGAIN.
That just how it works.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:05 AM
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31. Obama has barely thrown us any crumbs.
I am not looking forward to a second term at this point.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:31 PM
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34. Depends on what you consider "crumbs" given the shitpile he was handed
And that fact that he faces a Republican congress solidly committed to opposing him and Blue Dog "Democrats" who love to tell everyone how they don't necessarily agree with him.

Unlike Bush, who got everything greenlighted because his fellow Republicans supported everything he wanted to do and Congressional Dems were too spineless to oppose him.

There have been several extensive lists of President Obama's accomplishments to date posted on other threads. If you consider those to be 'crumbs' after this length of time into his term given what he's dealing with, then your expectations are verging on fantasy IMO.
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:24 PM
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32. He's going to need 2 terms to fix the mess he was left with. n/t
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:27 PM
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33. He suer hasn't been acting like he wants a second term n/t
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:33 PM
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35. Second term always declared lame duck, we need strength and clarity to tweek or improve change.
He'd like to be as progressive as possible. Lots of factors there.
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sarah553807 Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 05:17 PM
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36. yeah,lets have mitt romney have a chance
:eyes:
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 05:54 PM
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38. Why do we assume he won't want a second term?
"....at his age....."

:wtf:

He still a young guy who will only be in, what, his mid-fifties after (presumably) eight years?

"His time is now and a second term would be a drudge?"

Assuming much?
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 06:13 PM
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39. its an interesting comment in my eyes
specially since many who where opposed to Obama becoming president kept pointing out he was to young and could use a few more years of seasoning
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 06:57 PM
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40. President Obama just can't *win* with certain people
and they will try to find one reason or another to dislike him, think he's unqualified for the job, etc. Probably better to ignore them because NO amount of talking about, discussing, or trying to convince them will make an iota of difference to them.
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sarah553807 Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 08:16 PM
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41. yup
he has to try harder then any president before him to even prove he's good enough
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