The "blaming single-payer advocates for the slow progress on healthcare" strawman

The failure of President Obama's healthcare plan to have passed by this point has nothing whatsoever to do with criticism from the left.

It isn't progressives that have bottled that plan up in committee.
It isn't progressives that have delayed action.

It's DLC'ers and sellouts on the right-wing of the party.

Stop the lies.

It's the right that's to blame, not the left.

those whom they fear most here and there and anywhere they can put something into print.

He went after the center. That was his strategy. Stop blaming those who were never part of the plan (or taken for granted).

Where the hell did you get that crazy idea?

Thank you for admitting the left isn't to blame.

I can ask again.

Where did you get the crazy idea the health care bill should have passed by now.

The myth that it should've passed by now was the only possible justification for all those threads bashing the mythical "all or nothing" crowd that suddenly popped up today.

Why else would the DLC crowd be starting them?

You just pulled that right out of your ass to justify your bullshit OP.

Public Option. It would be nice if we got some help with the Public Option instead of constant single payer distractions, especially from those who do nothing but bitch and bitch and bitch...

and post piles of misleading attacks like yours.

A strawman is when a person misrepresents another person's argument.

From Wikipedia:

A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

In this case, the straw man is being built when advocates of the now-or-nothing approach to health care blame progressives for stymying reform, while in reality it is DLCers, blue dog Dems and right wing groups who are creating the current roadblocks. This straw man is an attempt by anti-progressive groups to weaken support for single payer and a public option. The anti-progressives are creating an informal fallacy based on the misrepresentation that progressives are recklessly stubborn and are fighting for something politically untenable, despite polls showing overwhelming support for the public option.

It describes your OP perfectly.

As a former health care giver and after seeing what is deemed, defended and supported as "the acceptable standards of health care" in Tennessee and Virginia I support public option. http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62 Clearly profit care comes ahead of patient care.

crumbs.

never on the table and any advocates for it have been marginalized from the beginning.

Focusing blame on anyone who refuses to entertain any government option or involvement would be the more appropriate skewering.

in the committees---and not treated like second class citizens--or worse by be shoved under the table from the start.

I haven't heard anybody here blame single payer advocates for the *slow* progress on health care reform. :shrug: There have, of course, been plenty of people here (and elsewhere) plugging it and criticizing President Obama and the Dems in Congress (not making a judgment call about it- just saying) for not pushing it. The debate has really coalesced around President Obama's desire to see a "public option" be part of health care reform and what form that might take.

Echoing an earlier post, I honestly never expected anything to have actually even been enacted by now regardless of who's advocating what. There are several different proposals being hammered out in the various committees in the House and Senate but there is currently no single proposal- another good reason for people not to "lose their heads" over various statements (and factual inaccuracies and fabrications thereof) made by President Obama and his administration regarding what they might and might not find acceptable.