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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:23 PM Original message |
Why the President is unwilling to halt DADT suspensions... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yep.. Obama will let the generals |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Don't think Congress feels any particular pressure to repeal DADT. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Skelton to hold hearings on Don't Ask, Don't Tell |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Let us hope they are some time in the near future, since no time frame was given. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Yes, I noticed that. Hopefully this summer after this vacation and |
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sisters6 (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. What a lame excuse. Can't the Pres. multitask?? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Perhaps you should read the excuse before pontificating on it? |
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mikiturner (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. His argument wasn't that he's got too much to do |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. obviously he IS |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Perhaps you should read your own |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
46. You don't have a damn clue. It's not about multitasking---it's the fact an executive order |
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Barrymores Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. Well, yet another one leaves the protective shelter of its bridge. n/t |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 04:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
68. What lame reading skills. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. I am not sure why he has not acted on this, but he has shown some leadership on this issue today. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. It's pretty clear in the OP why |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
5. Interesting. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. It is a shame about the now of |
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nosmokes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. What about the four years of gays serving in the military openly w/o a problem? |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
64. What convinces you that "it would get backburnered in Congress"? |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
7. A well tailored "excuse" (Tailored to fit the actions) |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. so this doesn't make sense to you? |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
27. I would like to hear a gay service member who faces imminent booting from the service for being gay |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. i'm thinking they'd rather the war be won, |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. they'd rather the leader stand up for them RIGHT FUCKING NOW |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #60 |
75. sounds to me like he is - |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. I'm sorry, i just do not believe that this was a "strategy". |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Obama's response today boils down to 'Trust me.' |
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jumptheshadow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Yep |
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marimour (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #39 |
80. "When he can stand in a room of gay men without bringing his wife" WTF? |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. Not true. |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. I wish the Admin. would get out ahead of these stories. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. lol, well, there's something to be said for ..... |
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jumptheshadow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
57. And some of us... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Actually, I've read this before |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. Maybe they should've got out ahead- no argument there |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Obama did say it a few months ago, but nobody was ready to listen |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. I understand that feeling |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. I heard it 2 months ago, and I posted it in response to several threads |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
11. Thanks, I got the same |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
14. Could the President reinstate discharged members.... |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I hope the FBI or CIA are contacting them - especially the linguists. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. I wrote upthread that I'd read |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
45. I'm sure the President has that power and is collecting the name. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. I have visions of a "reinstated service members" White House reception... |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. That would be sweet. It would be gay night at the White House. ^_^ n/t |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
15. I just started a thread on this but I'll add it here too: |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
20. Which is exactly what many of us have been saying for weeks. |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
23. I don't care if an executive order gets overturned later, I want it NOW |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. And it is 100% certain that an EO would get overturned after 8 years of successful |
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O is 44 (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
66. Why would you not support law to fix this? |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. It's not that it will get overturned later---it could be used as a way not to get things done now.nt |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
25. It worked SO well for Truman |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Get real! There was no law banning African-Americans |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. No, I don't |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 04:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
69. You obviously have a thing for dictatorship. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 05:25 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. more like leadership |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
40. Did you write this before the Jared Polis clip? |
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mikiturner (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Does anyone know if there is some legislation |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Aside from the Matthew Shepherd bill .... |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. If the ball is expected to start rolling soon, and there's the Matthew Shepherd bill too... |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Well first, read this.... |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Ok, now you can read this... |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. It's not that Congress is ACTUALLY tied up doing other things.... |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 02:58 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. So now you are saying that Congress isn't actually busy with the Healthcare, and other legislation? |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Polis can not personally guarantee that he can move an entire legislative body... |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 04:35 AM Response to Reply #47 |
70. But Joe isn't the one calling the shots just now. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
42. Obama said so in his speech today. He mentioned about how certain actions would cause problems. n/t |
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KJETS (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
44. midterms |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
54. Yeah, because he's been pushing Congress soooo hard |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
58. We call this a pile a horse manure in Indiana, and porqueria in Latin America |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
59. fucking LAME |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 06:24 AM Response to Reply #59 |
73. quite the argument |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. says it all |
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Baltoman991 (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
61. I brought |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
62. He's saving it for 2011 when he needs their support again... |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
72. I don't buy that. It would be one thing if DADT was very popular and was going to |
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trayfoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
74. This seems entirely logical to me. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
77. I see some DUers seem to want a dictator for a president as long as he's our dictator. |
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deadlyaj (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. The gay advocates are doing nothing but slowing momentum ... |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 05:19 AM Response to Original message |
78. So they're sacrificing soldiers' careers because they lack the political will |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
79. That is bogus |
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GivePeaceAchance (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
82. Exactly, he's not trying to overrule the congresses authority it is in itself disrespectful... |
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