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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 06:56 PM
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Gallup: More Americans See Democratic Party as “Too Liberal”
I don't get it. who are these people? :shrug:



PRINCETON, NJ -- A Gallup Poll finds a statistically significant increase since last year in the percentage of Americans who describe the Democratic Party's views as being "too liberal," from 39% to 46%. This is the largest percentage saying so since November 1994, after the party's losses in that year's midterm elections.



Most major demographic and attitudinal subgroups show at least a slight uptick since 2008 in perceptions that the Democratic Party is too liberal. The increasing perception of the Democrats as too far left comes as President Obama and the Democrats in Congress have expanded the government's role in the economy to address the economic problems facing the country. Additionally, the government is working toward major healthcare reform legislation and strengthening environmental regulations.

Notably, there has been no change over the past year in the percentage of Americans who say the Republican Party is "too conservative," though the 43% who say the party leans too far to the right matches the historical high mark set last year.



As a result, now slightly more Americans perceive the Democratic Party as being too liberal (46%) than view the GOP as being too conservative (43%).

But the Democratic Party still compares favorably to the Republican Party from the standpoint that more Americans say the Democrats' ideology is "about right" (42%) than say this about the Republicans' ideology (34%).



Independents' Views of the Parties

Political independents' perceptions of the two major parties' ideological orientation are important since both parties need to appeal to the political center in order to win elections. (The vast majority of partisan identifiers predictably view their chosen party's views as being about right and the other party's as being too extreme.)

Currently, independents are more likely to view both parties as being too extreme in either direction than to believe they are about right. But more independents say the Democratic Party (38%) than the Republican Party (25%) is about right.

Independents are a little more likely to say the Republican Party is too conservative than to say the Democratic Party is too liberal, in a slight departure from the results among all Americans.



Since last year, there have been declining perceptions among independents that each party is about right in its ideological orientation -- from 31% to 25% for the Republican Party and from 43% to 38% for the Democratic Party. Most of the decline in regard to the Democratic Party has been associated with in an increase in seeing the party as "too liberal."

Implications

The Democratic Party continues to hold the upper hand over the Republican Party in the current U.S. political environment by a variety of measures, including party identification and party favorable ratings. However, compared to last year, Americans are significantly more likely to see the Democratic Party as too liberal, and as a result, they are somewhat more likely to view the party as being too far left than to perceive the Republican Party as too far right.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121307/More-Americans-See-Democratic-Party-Too-Liberal.aspx


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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 06:57 PM
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1. Yeah, well, it is the Gallup poll. (and many former Republicans got so disgusted with Bush Co, they
switched parties - but that doesn't mean the Dems should change).
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 06:57 PM
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2. What the media sez, goes.
Not to mention the endless parade of Republican has-beens they spotlight.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 06:59 PM
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3. What does "too liberal" mean, anyway?
And what did the poll respondents take "liberal" to mean? Given the damage that's been done to that word by the righties over the years, I don't trust any poll or survey involving the label "liberal" to represent the true views of the respondents.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 10:11 PM
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33. In America, it means you don't want to make a buck off of something.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:00 PM
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4. Republicans are very good at framing Democrats.
Democrats have yet to figure it out
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:01 PM
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5. this is bull shit.. all will change when our media changes
and when all repubs have a counter voice on radio which they don't have at this time. Radio is all day all night republican propaganda.
Of course Americans will think Democrats are "too liberal" at least the ones in congress, which in reality is bullshit.
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:21 PM
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13. When will our media change? nt
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:01 PM
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6. Most Americans don't even know the meaning of the word "liberal"
They just know what they hear from the liberal media.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:02 PM
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7. I think the independents' perception is the most important
I don't care about the other numbers because clearly the 30%ers drove up the "too liberal" description of Dems. A lot more indies think the GOP is "too conservative" than think it's "just right", which is encouraging.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:13 PM
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10. Yeah, that was the section that stood out to me. nt
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 07:22 PM by DrToast
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:03 PM
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8. when i am seldom asked if iam politically liberal or conservative
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 07:04 PM by Sebass1271
i usually respond, "Proud Liberal, thank you very much".! - the other persons usually stayed numbed.
which i don't give two rats azz about what they think anyway.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:05 PM
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9. Gallup- out to influence public opinion- rather than reflect it
Pretty much a truism, when it comes down to doing actual research.
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960 Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:16 PM
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11. Many are put off by the massive $$$ giveaways.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:34 PM
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19. the worst of which were enacted by George W. Bush
and the reactionary Congress from 2001-2007
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:17 PM
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12. Democrats too liberal goes up, and Repubs too liberal goes up too...
So it looks like the right-wing kook factor has just increased if nothing else. It's to be expected given the rabidness of the Hannity/Limbaugh/Beck group.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:23 PM
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14. sampling error is ±3 percentage points.
42% = 39%-45%
46% = 43%-49%
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:24 PM
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15. A lot of them are just trying
to clean up the 8 years of bushcheney neglect.

If that makes them Liberal..so be it.
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:28 PM
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16. Why is anyone paying any attention to Gallup?
:puke:
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:29 PM
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17. Why are you always posting negative things about Democrats?



/snarky
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:32 PM
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18. this won't change until someone lays waste to the fascist media monopoly
hopefully it can be done legally and peacefully, but I am beginning to doubt this.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:34 PM
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20. We agree on that- but please tell me you're not buying what's being sold here
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 07:35 PM by depakid
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:37 PM
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21. no, but if we had honest media there would be about 75 Dem Senators
and 290 Reps
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:43 PM
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22. Right wing media has been very effective in painting Dems as extreme liberals.
They even have some convinced that Obama is a flaming liberal.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 07:49 PM
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23. .
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 07:55 PM by invictus
nt
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 08:06 PM
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24. Whoa! You're kidding right? Holy sh**. nt
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 08:16 PM
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25. WTF have Democrats done that is "too liberal"?
They've been bullied by the GOP, have trouble passing anything with teeth and get bogged down on the the slightest progressive issues.

There's been NO movement on prosecuting Bush & Cheney, NO repeal of DADT or DOMA, NO regulation of the financial sector, NO tightening up on environmental standards, NO big rush to end the wars or close Gitmo.

What do these people want? The return of Bush?

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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 08:35 AM
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41. Too libereal, how bought just plain liberal
I see them not allowing the nonsense the pukes want to do but as far as actually doing ANYTHING liberal I haven't seen even one thing from them.

We have "batshit crazy corporatists" and "sorry, but we have to be corporatists". Liberal isn't in either one of those.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 08:42 AM
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42. Yep, you nailed it
"sorry, but we have to be corporatists". And sometimes even the "sorry" is left out.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 08:17 PM
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26. It's simple Frenchie you have a democratic party including a administration
that will not fight back against the lies,nor will they defend progressive policy.
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namecallerholic Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 08:20 PM
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27. I want to see a poll question that reads, "American, are you stupid?" If a majority does not say...
Edited on Tue Jun-30-09 08:20 PM by namecallerholic
..."No," then public opinion polls are not credible.
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 08:51 PM
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28. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't
you the one who was touting some imaginary poll around here the other day as proof of something or other?
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 08:54 PM
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29. This tells you how useless these polls are
Last week 75% of Americans (give or take the usual margin of error) wanted single payer health care.

This week, the party that should - but WON'T - give them that is "too liberal"


Shit, don't I wish? :evilfrown:
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 05:43 AM
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35. Yep, it shows that Americans will react differently depending on framing
The indies' number is important. Before 1994, they were not happy.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 09:15 PM
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30. Most people don't know what liberal means.
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 09:48 PM
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31. Not surprising after 30 years of right wing propaganda.
To change perceptions you need to change the media. However for some reason wealthy liberals and progressives (unlike rich conservatives) seem unwilling to put money into media.
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NYC Democrat Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 10:08 PM
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32. the republicans "too Liberal" rating has gone up as well.
This makes me think that all this poll shows is that the previously Somewhat to very Conservative voters have moved further to the right.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 04:57 AM
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34. "Too Liberal" means :1. A Democrat got elected President.
2.He is fixing the damage done by previous Republican misfeasance.
3.The MSM is owned by RWers.
4.The Democratic President if very popular.

(Oh, yeah - He's black, too.)


mark
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 06:25 AM
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37. Exactly. Every time there is a Democratic President the MSM claims that "Liberal"
is the word. Democrats let Ronald Reagan and George Bush 41 demonize the world "Liberal". Reagan accused both Carter and Mondale of being "Liberal, Liberal, Liberal" and the Democrats allowed the connotation to percolate in the American psyche as Liberal=Bad. Then Bush 41 accused Dukakis of "Liberal and a card-carrying Liberal from the ACLU" and again Democrats let this smear unanswered. They should have answered "Yes, we are proud Liberals, we fought for civil rights, we fought for women's suffrage, we fought to end the Vietnam War and we fought to end the debacle in Iraq". There is nothing wrong with being Liberal and we should throw it back at them, the Neocons and the Gallup poll. And we should start calling them "Neocon, neocon, neocon" and let it percolate in the American psyche that "Neocon=GOP.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 06:21 AM
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36. Looks much worse for the Republicans
Most independents see them as too conservative.

I would be more curious as to what this poll said about four years ago.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 06:27 AM
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38. yes, but Morning Joke Scumborough and Mika Mouse are saying: Look, America
is tiring of Obama and his policies and the deficits and Barnacle saying "Look, every Thursday America is conservative when they try to balance their checkbook and Obama is spending too much" :mad:

Again, we are letting them frame this debate just like we did in the 1980's.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 09:12 AM
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44. No argument there (n/t)
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 10:54 AM
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45. Actually, I heard Mika give credit to people reading Joe's new book.
They are really quite pathetic.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 07:59 AM
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39. If we're going to play those games
why don't we find a word for the republicans? Racist. Backward thinking. Corporate Ass Lickers. War Starters.

That's the problem. There are too many negative terms for republicans that aptly apply. There is noting really bad to say about the Democrats, so the media (another name for neocon pawn) uses the word liberal like it is a slur.

That, plus the numbers come from gallup. I think the real problem now is that too many may see Democrats as not honest. We are supposed to be liberal. That is why they elected our guys. Then our guys go and play conservative on us. A better solution than trying to make grover norquist like you would be to say: Liberal. Hell yes. I'm liberal. I'm for equality; aren't you? I'm for peace; aren't you? I'm for the public good; aren't you?

Make liberal a word to cheer.

Liberals support the poor and middle class. Conservatives serve the rich.
Liberals support the small business owner. Conservatives serve the corporate elite.
Liberals support peace and the peace keepers. Conservatives serve the military industrial corporations.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 08:05 AM
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40. More Americans need to learn to shut the fuck up
or you will be crushed.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 08:46 AM
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43. Who creates that impression and how do they do it?
I offer that the Congressional Democrats, when they constantly speak of their 'need' for Republican support, and what they would give up to get it, are implying that the Republicans are correct. They offer to remove the offending 'most liberal' elements as if they agree that these elements are 'too liberal' even for them. The announced willingness to not just compromise, but to capitulate, sends the message that they themselves feel they are out in the tall grass, and that the Republican views are more 'rational'.
When you come in saying 'we want X but we know they won't let us have it, so we will settle for Y and actually even Z' you are saying that your position is not worth fighting for- and that theirs is.

When the GOP or Blue Dogs say 'This is too liberal' they all rush to agree and remove the offending liberality. They seem furtive and shifty. I don't think the Congress has any idea how they are seen, or what their actions telegraph to the voters at all.
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GivePeaceAchance Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 11:44 AM
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46. Oh if it were true the wars would be won by constant food and aid to tribes in Pakistan,and..
Edited on Wed Jul-01-09 11:48 AM by GivePeaceAchance
Afghanistan, there'd be single payer, the banks would all be nationalized and Kucinich would be made a hero, well kinda. As we are we're in a more moderate stance and have to make the most of what we've got. What's wrong with them anyways did they really enjoy too conservative, very odd.
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