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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:42 AM
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I doubt Palin will actual quit on the 26th, she has probably realized her status as quitter
doesn't do her any good.

IMO, she will ride to her own rescue on a snow machine and agree to stay on as Governor until the end of her term.

You bettca!
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:44 AM
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1. It wasn't clear to me whether she signed documents to resign, thus making
a "do-over" a possibility.

Plus, I think she is full steam ahead for other options.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:48 AM
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2. To her shock nobody begged her not to quit
Her action is like a kid threatening to hold his breath until he turns blue if he doesn't get something he wants.

I think she honestly believed her decision to quit would bring on a chorus of voices pleading with her to stay in office.

But her bluff was called and now she has to actually quit or become even more of a joke than she already is.


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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:59 AM
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8. Just cause we haven't heard voices doesn't mean she hasn't heard voices
in her head. I think that is who she listens to anyway.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:33 PM
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28. I think she finally opened some of those frantic e-mails from Katherine Harris. n/t
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TokenQueer Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:50 AM
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3. Well she made her "speech" and then went fishing.
Looks to me like she has already quit.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 08:40 AM
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19. My thoughts exactly. Why not wait to go fishing with the family until
AFTER her resignation date? I think Alaskans should ask why she couldn't manage to actually WORK for the last three weeks she is collecting a pay check to be governor.
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TokenQueer Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 03:24 PM
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29. How can we miss her if she won't go away?
This lady terrifies me. I just want her to go away...forever. During the GE I would have night terrors about McCain winning...then dropping dead the next day. :scared:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:51 AM
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4. And when asked about it, her answer will be "Well, I'm a maverick!"
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:53 AM
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5. Sideshow Palin might do anything for attention
:puke:
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:54 AM
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6. she really quit
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 08:57 AM
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7. She's gone.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 09:07 AM
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9. the quitter
who knows?

she may quit the quitting and serve out her term?

-90% Jimmy
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 09:29 AM
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10. It could be. With Palin, who knows what's going to happen at any
given moment?

The speech she gave when she announced her stepping down was among the worst public presentations I have ever heard in my life.

And she's on record as walking out mid-term on a public service job. It will be hard for her opponents to pass up the opportunity at every turn to remind voters that she couldn't hack it as a Governor / how can she then ask to be the leader of the free world, etc.

The woman is a mess.
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IggleDoer Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 09:38 AM
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12. Worst public presentation ever???
Don't forget Bobby Jindal - the next great hope of Repubicans.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 05:26 PM
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16. True, Jindal dropped the ball on that televised address. But I think
Palin has him beat for sheer craziness.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:03 AM
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21. That night was soooo funny!!
Epic EPIC fail!!!!
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 05:45 PM
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31. True but at least he was comprehensible
Jindal had a terrible speech and terrible delivery, but Palin had both of those AND she was incomprehensible.

Oh well, they both sucked.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 09:37 AM
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11. It would be hysterically funny if she announced that she was changing her mind
Predictable, but hysterically funny.

:evilgrin:
rocktivity
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 09:55 AM
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15. Won't happen. Unresigning would be ludicrous, and just make her look stupid.
:rofl:
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IggleDoer Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 08:30 AM
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18. She could unresign due to the "ovewrwhelming response" ...
... of her supporters. If she gets three letters from fellow evangullibles, she could quote their desire for her to "stay and fight" in her unresignation speech.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 09:39 AM
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13. What? And give up all that money she's going to get
in a reality show or book or going on the talking circuit? She has just begun to milk it. She actually snatched the headlines away from Michael Jackson didn't she? I think she's just now beginning to hit her stride. And she's managed to become unburdened by public office with it's quaint insistence on professionalism, which really frees her up to do more of her maverickin. There are no pesky rules on ethics in private life.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 09:50 AM
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14. I think there is a combinations of "ideas" running through her
mind.

Perhaps she believes that by stepping down, any remaining investigations will cease; she will be seen a "savior" of AK tax dollars; she expected a hew and cry of "Don't do it! Sarah"; she'll be seen as a "true" R mother; none of these is a reality though, (except for a few yahoos in outside of AK.

Point is, she will be seen as a "quitter" when things were warm, not hot, and focus even more attention on the GOP as a party w/o answers to serious problems. Since the GOP propped her up as a "new" R, she has consistently shown herself to be incredibly ill-informed on many issues, basic geography, basic political realities and incapable of handling herself under even the slightest pressure.

She was not elected because of some great wisdom she possesses, she was most likely seen as the one to do the least damage to the state, (like that worked out), and she had "appeal" on various aspects of RW ideology, (read religion, anti-abortion, low taxes etc). It is impossible to leave out gender and looks though. No matter how it may be spun, she was elected at least in part, because she is female and can be visually appealing. There is no doubt in my mind that McCain chose her as his VP candidate simply because of those two items. McCain is very old school in most of his thinking, female and looks count a lot in how he makes decisions. If he had any idea just how light under the cap Palin is, he took that into account only because he figured she would deflect criticism at how light under the cap he is.

Considering that the McCain/Palin campaign was one of the worst campaigns in US history, all it did was relegate McCain to codger status and Palin to national status, (who outside of AK had even heard of her before?), she is following up on failure, and doing a magnificent job of showing that failure can beget more failure as time rolls on...:D
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:03 PM
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17. As always, she will do exactly what the Shadow Governor Dude orders her to do. n/t
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:01 AM
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20. Fine. She'll just look even more erratic
Keep diggin Palin!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:05 AM
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22. You realize if she doesn't quit then she'll look even worse. Like a total Dramaqueen.
And making the Repub party looking even 3x worse than ever. If that's even possible.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:09 AM
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23. Have any of your conspiracy theories EVER come true?
Just asking....

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:16 AM
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24. LOL!
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:51 AM
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25. Pardon Me---Did I Miss All The Street Riots Throughout Alaska....

...demanding that Palin finish out her term as governor? Is she going to "ride to her own rescue" with the enthusiastic backing of the Alaskan populace?

No, I didn't think so.....
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 11:47 AM
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26. Remember Perot - the damage done by quitting can't be repaired by changing the decision
I know it is not a perfect analog - he quit a Presidential race, then returned.

I think that she will try to use her charisma (which to her base she has) and her popularity (again, she has some with her base) to try to become the obvious leader of her party - helping with the 2010 elections and becoming the obvious 2012 candidate. Ignore, who Plain is and her skills. There are elements of what she is saying she wants to do and in things she likely intends to do that 2008 Democrats did - though without quitting positions they have.

Kerry clearly acted as a party leader, continuing to articulate Democratic positions on issues from the environment to healthcare, helping candidates get both volunteers and money - in addition to creating with Feingold the Democratic exit strategy that by spring 2007, 51 Senators voted for a variation of and Clinton and Obama backed variations of. These did help the Democratic party in 2006 and 2008, while obviously not making him the nominee. Here, Palin would have been wise to look at this example - without his Senate seat, he could not have had access to all he did on Iraq and he couldn't have sponsored legislation. Palin as governor actually could have pushed innovative program and demonstrated that they worked. If anything, it is easier for a governor to do this than a Senator and, like Kerry, she could have simulateously done the party stuff.

Instead, she is putting herself into the position that Edwards had pre-2008, with the added burden of the label of quitter. Edwards used his time as Palin may use her - translated to the right wing. He worked with people developing an entire platform from the one he had in 2004. He went to Russia with Jack Kemp and wrote a position paper. He worked with the activists of the party - such as unions on minimum wage. He then spent a huge amount of time in Iowa and other early states - more than he could have spent if he were still a Senator. He, like Palin, was the former VP - unlike her he had run a campaign before. His 2008 campaign, even with initial media support in 2005 and 2006 became a darker, angrier, less successful campaign than the one he ran in 2004.

As to Palin, in 2008, the Republicans had to defend her from the get go. She was on the ticket and there was no real option of replacing her. There was baggage aplenty. If she goes for 2012, her Republican opponents will use it and that will likely be nastier than the 2008 general election, where the official Democrats really did not attack her - there was no need to. There are a few things that help her - unless things change, 2012 will be the year for a Republican sacrificial lamb, which may lead any really strong candidate from running. The second is that there really does not seem to be an obvious strong Republican candidate.

Where quitting could hurt her is if she runs against someone who did the things conservatives want done in these hard years. One possible opponent may be Mitch Daniels, now in his second term as Governor of Indiana. He just got a 2 year budget passed - containing what he wanted (not what urban areas wanted.) and will claim he kept Indiana in the black. (He even did not let them use a rainy day fund. Maybe he wants it there for 2011?? Like Bush, he could run as a sitting Governor Indiana's tradition of two year budgets helps him because if they do that in 2011, there is no budget legislation.) I apologize to the Hoosiers here for mentioning their awful governor and if I got this wrong.

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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:22 PM
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27. She's a narcissist.
There's nothing wrong with being a quitter because she is more perfect and grand than anyone in the world. To her it's "how dare anyone question her and try to paint her as negative."

She also wants the moola and because she is so superior, she deserves it and lots of it.

She is not going to stay in this job because it is beneath her and she can get unfettered amounts of money and media coverage if she is free of it.
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sarah553807 Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 05:01 PM
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30. Palins done
Edited on Mon Jul-13-09 05:02 PM by sarah553807
alaska wasn't big enough of a stage for her
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themaguffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 06:54 PM
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32. No way, it would look even worse (amazingly enough)
She's done with Alaska, she either wants money or to screw the rest of us - or both
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:50 PM
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33. Yeah, it'd be the gubernatorial equivalent of Brett Favre
People can stomach a quitter much easier than they can tolerate a wishy-washy flake.
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