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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:28 AM
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Centrist Dem Leader: Has Committee Votes To Block Health Bill
WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- 07-15-091403ET
U.S. Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark., a leader of fiscally conservative House Democrats, said Wednesday a House plan to overhaul the U.S. health-care system is losing support and will be stuck in committee without changes.



"Last time I checked, it takes seven Democrats to stop a bill in the Energy and Commerce Committee," Ross told reporters after a House vote. "We had seven against it last Friday; we have 10 today."


Three House committees are slated to begin considering the $1 trillion-plus bill this week, but the Energy and Commerce looms as the biggest challenge. That's because it counts among its 36 Democratic members seven members of the Blue Dog Coalition, a fiscally conservative bloc that is opposing the House Democrats' effort.

Ross said the bill, introduced Wednesday by House Democratic leaders, doesn't include provisions adequate to curb rising health care costs, including what the government spends on healthcare.

"The current bill would have to be substantially amended before we could consider supporting it," Ross said.

The Energy and Commerce panel is scheduled to meet Thursday afternoon to kick off its review of the legislation, but its session is expected to stretch into late next week.

Ross said Blue Dogs have been meeting every day to craft amendments that will be offered during that meeting, but offered no details on what those amendments are. He said those amendments could number in the dozens.

Ross said he expects Blue Dogs will meet with the panel's chairman, Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., soon to discuss their specific proposed changes.

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=200907151403dowjonesdjonline000758&title=centrist-dem-leaderhas-committee-votes-to-block-health-bill



The House bill still has a long way to go.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:31 AM
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1. yeah, that's what I thought
this watered-down piece of shit is only the starting point
can't wait to see what it will look like when all is said and done.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:51 AM
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2. so when it's a complete sop to the insurance overlords, will it be time to start a third party?
How much longer can we tolerate a minority of "Blue Dogs" derailing things the majority of Americans want?
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Aragorn Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 04:15 AM
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3. Nov 2010
and no longer I hope.
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mp9200 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 04:28 AM
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4. That's not a bad idea
With the way both parties are acting.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:15 PM
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10. No, it will not be time to start a third party
Voting for third-party candidates led to the 2000 Nader debacle.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:16 PM
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11. Whereas, the current system, with Blue Dog road blocks, has so far yielded...?
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 02:17 PM by villager
btw, I'm talking about bottom-up organizing if a third party was to bloom -- a labor party, or something. Not a one man cult o'personality...
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 03:33 PM
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13. It has yielded an increase in the minimum wage and an expansion of the GI Bill
Things which never would have happened without the votes of Blue Dogs.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:49 AM
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16. right -- and subsidies to bankers, bloated defense budgets, the slaughter of wolves
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 10:50 AM by villager
...the logging of the Tongass, and the abject fear of real, necessary climate change action. this is what placating the "middle" -- formerly known as "the right" -- gets us. And will keep getting us.

Glad you're willing to settle for "marginally better."

Some of us are starting to ask if there might not be a better way...
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 10:24 AM
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15. Exactly. It makes much more sense to prune the party
of the DINOS, and build around the real Dems, than try to grow a whole new tree.

Remember, if you bolt the Dem party for a 3rd party, you're not only leaving Bayh and Pryor, you're also leaving Feingold, Sanders, Boxer, Whitehouse, and all the House Dems.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:22 PM
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12. I don't understand why there are STILL Dixiecrats. Why didn't they all just bolt the Democratic Part
and become Repukes?!?!??! :puke::puke::puke:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:06 AM
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5. Excellent. Get the ads running now.
While their names and faces scroll by

"49 million Americans don't have access to health care. Because of these representatives

"Another 5 million will go bankrupt due to health care costs this year" Because of these representatives

These representatives are helping Big Insurance destroy this country's economy. Get rid of them next November
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:11 AM
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6. Those would be powerful ads. I hope someone does them.
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 10:12 AM by avaistheone1
I have no more respect for the blue dog Democrats than I do for Dick Cheney.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:34 AM
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7. Who are the Blue Dogs standing in the way? And...
how much and from which health care companies/pacs have they received contributions? And... do their spouses or other family members sit on the board of any health care companies?
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 01:56 PM
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8. This info is from June for the Senate-
I will look for the House.

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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 03:42 PM
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14. Great list.
Thanks for posting. :hi:
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:08 PM
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9. Since when does Energy and Commerce have to approve the bill?
Last I checked a bill only has to make it out of one House Standing Committee then out of the Rules Committee and then it goes to the floor for debate and a vote.
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