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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 02:49 PM
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FYI....if you see me kicking in the front door of my house and you don't know me, call the cops!!!
Blaming the witness on this is as dumb as you can get.

If I see a black/brown/white person breaking and climbing in the window of a house and I don't know them I am not going to go ask them a series of questions. I'll call the cops and let them sort it out.

And if the cops are not ego filled jerks they will handle it in about 2 minutes.

This place is unbelievable at times!!!

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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 02:50 PM
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1. True.
Right down the line.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 02:51 PM
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2. Gates said he doesn't blame the lady who called n/t
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 02:59 PM
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3. Gates did not 'kick in the front door of his house'.
He is a frail 58 year old. He's not kicking much of anything. He walks with a cane. Nobody much is blaming the person who called the police. People are questioning why a man in his own house was arrested. A legitimate question of racial profiling has been raised and remains unanswered.
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RayOfHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 02:59 PM
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4. Sure I'll call. But when you show the cops proof you live there, I'll also expect them to leave you
alone without incident. n/t
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:04 PM
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5. oh, come on...
that's not what this is about. The citizen did the right thing if it was suspicious, but she seems to be lacking in the "info" department.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:05 PM
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6. I've seen a few posts casting aspersions on the witness.
I don't agree with that. We know nothing about that witness so we shouldn't enage in that.

But clearly the cop was out of it. I can;t believe people don't get how deep this is. Take away the colors and just imagine giving the cops the right to harass you in your own home simply because they don't like the way you're acting.

I don't know what other rights we could possibly have if we don't have that one.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:21 PM
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10. the witness may have done the right thing... it's the cop and the department I'm questioning
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FloriTexan Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:05 PM
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7. Why would a "neighbor" not know his neighbor...
My neighbors would know me. I know them. Sorry, I have to ask the question. Was the neighbor so out of touch or just a busy body? Really, what is up with that! It looked like a pretty nice neighborhood. Its a good question. As soon as the cops learned he lived there they should have left and left the person who reported the error know who it was.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:08 PM
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8. I think it was just a "passerby" neighbor
:eyes:
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FloriTexan Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 09:01 AM
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13. That's what someone else implied in another thread...
that she was out for a walk. So she passes a house where she obviously doesn't know the owner, she sees a man messing with the front door and calls the cops?!? I'd lay odds she was white and clueless.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 09:14 AM
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15. I'm a huge fan of Professor Gates
and watched his recent show on African bloodlines in US African-americans.

AND if I were out AT NIGHT walking somewhere and saw him and another guy forcing a door, IN THE DARK, I would call the cops . If I were out walking and saw Brad Pitt and another guy forcing a door, IN THE DARK, I would call the cops. If I saw Jackie Chan forcing a door, IN THE DARK, I would call the cops.

BECAUSE THEY ALL JUST LOOK LIKE MEN TO ME, and in my sexist mind Men Forcing Door = Burglary.

(yes, I know there are female robbers, but until I hear reports of all-girl burglary rings, I'm assuming that women forcing a door are locked out)

And I would hope a cop would arrive, identify him/herself, explain that they were required to get get ID from someone seen breaking into a house, get ID from the person in the house, and then LEAVE. Even if the resident were tired and cranky from a trip to China.
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FloriTexan Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 09:26 AM
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16. Um, it was in the middle of the day....
so unless the eclipse was seen here...
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 09:27 AM
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17. Sorry - didn't know that
I guess because the photos on the news showed the house at night, I made the assumption it was night!
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:26 PM
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12. Good point!!!
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:13 PM
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9. I agree with the premise that you should call the police if someone is breaking in a house but
once you have figured out after questioning the person that he is in fact the resident, you don't go and arrest him. We're not talking about race... we're talking about good ego-less common sense.

The cop arrested the professor after finding out that the professor lived there and further the department had to drop the charges against the professor.

I think the cop was ego-filled. That's the point.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 03:25 PM
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11. I sure will but WHEN you show proof you live there & the cops STILL..>STILL arrest you then you be..
...happy with the outcome no?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 09:09 AM
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14. Fine...agree with you. But after you show the cops your ID, you should NOT be arrested
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-24-09 09:32 AM
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18. And we'll have you arrested too
"this place is unbelievable at times!!" you are only noticing this once racism is called out by the president, and everyone clutches their pearls and handbags. good riddance.
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