What is going on in this country? Seriously?

I was shocked to see a poll on Faux News (I flipped there out of curiosity) stating that 89% of Americans claim they have either excellent or good health insurance. The question posed was:

"Do we even need to change anything?" Of course you can guess the answer.

Now, I see a huge disconnect between that poll and what I know to be true here in Texas, which has the largest number of uninsured of any state and where a very large number probably watch Faux News. I heard today that Gov. Perry would do whatever he could to block any kind of federal healthcare law so that it would be ineffective in Texas.

I have what is considered good health insurance; yet if I was struck with an illness requiring a lengthy hospitalization or a course of expensive medications, I would spend the rest of my life struggling to pay the bills. Do people just not understand the fine print of their policies - do they think that because their employers provide insurance and they haven't been seriously ill that they have excellent health insurance?

I just don't get it. Either Americans really are stupid or we're being fed blatant lies. Or both.

And had to pay $4000 out of a $7000 emergency room visit. Like the guy on the commercial says, "it's like having a coupon for health care".

I wouldn't. I guess those two words mean something different to everyone; maybe people think just having insurance = excellent.

healthy. That and then there is the blatant lying part.

think it's OK, and it usually is, at least until you have to use it for something really serious. That's when you can start having problems. But unless that happens you probably think your insurance is decent enough. I have BCBS, and it's been fine. Thing is, I've only had to make a few claims, and those were pretty small. Those were processed without any problem. So I guess I could be one of those people who are satisfied with their health insurance.

But I wonder how much I'd like it if I got really sick and had to see a specialist, or have major surgery, or even try to get a kind of treatment that BCBS considered experimental? And in any event there are deductibles and co-pays, and there's also a cap on total payments. Would they deny coverage? Would I run out of coverage?

Best analogy I've seen lately is that it's like having a really nice car with a defective engine that runs only for short distances and at low speeds. You love your car as long as you only have to drive it to the grocery store once a week. But how much will you like it if you really have to go somewhere and it breaks down and leaves you stranded?

And you're right, unless insurance is put to the test and all you do is chug along with annual exams and a few prescriptions every year, all is well.

where rule was not based on popular consent, but by something else, then you would understand why some in propaganda departments exist.

To maintain an unjust system, their has to be much deception, since most people want justice. So in systems, even if corporate like some MSM, they have to deceive to try and change an agenda people agree with.

It may seem different then before because it is just more clear to you now.


After days of 24/7 MJ coverage, they did a poll and said 50% cared about the topic. See the pattern, they want to manipulate perception, then if they succeed, that result gets used to justify the action.

Its the old idea of fake it till you make it. They are bold face lying hoping their lies will take hold and they will not have to face the music of their deception by claiming it was always that way. It is a standard method. Although they don't have a clue what they are up against so they are spiraling into insanity to try and make things stick, and more and more people are laughing, although I think it is sad and it troubles me to see them so ill.

An easy metaphor is to imagine a guilty person sent to the gallows, he keeps yelling he is innocent all the way there, and he shrieks more and more as he gets closer. It stops being a tactic and becomes just desperation. It is hard not to pity many of those that deceive, it would be better if they just could find comfort and peace and think about it.

Honestly, I think we do live in a dictatorship of sorts. Corporate dictatorship.

...Fox. There's a reason people here call it 'Faux News.' :7 As to this...

"I just don't get it. Either Americans really are stupid or we're being fed blatant lies. Or both " Some THINK we are stupid enough to buy their lies. ;) Turn off Fox. Inform your friends and family.

They see that poll and even if they don't have coverage or have crappy coverage, might not speak up because they think 89% do. The tactic is sickening.

...people like you and I inform and educate those around us and TOGETHER demand that it stop. JMHO.

The dead and destitute might have a different opinion, but can't be asked.

These are two clues. It's all explained there in those two things.

The Lewin or maybe Levin Group? Advocating for the health insurance companies.

Always have been and always will be. They care nothing for the truth since they live in their right wing bubble.

The poll is clearly a lie. Unemployment is around ten percent, and just 11 percent don't have "good health insurance?" Give me a freaking break.

while at the same unrec any criticism of it.

Talk about being your own worst enemy!

Who in the fuck do you all think this plan is helping?

Certainly NOT you or me or any of us!

Get a clue-WE, the people are getting screwed over by corporate america once again while Obama sells the plan for them!

Anyone who doesn't get it by now that Obama is OWNED by corporate america is a FUCKING IDIOT.

much better than the private options it's supposed to "compete" with.