Larry Flynt: "Grow a Pair, Obama"

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-30/grow-a-pair-obama/?cid=bsa:mostpopular3


In a Daily Beast exclusive, Larry Flynt, the notorious publisher of Hustler magazine, tells the president to toughen up, keep his campaign promises, and start whacking the Republicans.

President Obama:

You have proven to be a great campaigner. You have yet to demonstrate your ability to govern. Who needs the Republicans? They don’t know what compromise is. They’re just out to derail your presidency. Bitch slap ’em at every opportunity and put them in their place. They lost; you didn’t.

You need some gonads, Mr. President, and if you don’t have any, as Hillary would say, you’d better grow some.

As for disloyal Democrats, you need to yank the carpet out from under them. Remind them that their survival is dependent upon yours. Don’t pull punches, Mr. President. You need some gonads, and if you don’t have any, as Hillary would say, you’d better grow some.

You have failed to keep many campaign promises. You’ve ignored civil-liberty violations such as warrantless wiretapping. You passed a stimulus package that is obviously full of pork for Democrats. You handed over billions more in taxpayer dollars to crooked bankers. You listened to the very people who created our economic meltdown, the Mutt and Jeff team of Larry Summers and Tim Geithner. You’ve let the insurance lobbyists hijack health-care reform to the detriment of every man, woman, and child in America.

You must say what you mean and mean what you say. Closing Guantanamo means just that. You could do it right now, Mr. President. You don’t have to wait until January. You can place terrorist suspects in the federal correctional system without creating any risk to our citizens.

You’re a nice guy. Everybody likes nice guys. Sometimes they finish last. You don’t want that, and neither do those of us who voted you in.

The American people have placed their future in your hands. For heaven’s sake don’t let them down. Don’t let yourself down.

Larry Flynt
Publisher, Hustler magazine

I agree with Larry Flynt almost any time he says something.

too bad the "Saint Obama" crowd doesn't "get it"...

Larry Flint "gets it"...

Psst Larry, Bush bailed out the banks.

last September. Remember?

No more money for "Vegas Vick does Wall Street"! What has brought this country to it's knees: GREED! If the financial system needs further "rescuing," let the bankers, speculators and deregulation collaborators that caused this mess pay to fix it. I would prefer my tax dollars go to fixing and maintaining national infrastructure and taking care of the actual citizens footing the bill. Speaking of taking care of actual citizens...

I don't care how fucking much the healthcare insurance companies, big pharma and the rest of the for-profit vampires have given to Washington, it is time to REMOVE THEM FROM THE EQUATION! There is NO PLACE any longer for "for profit" healthcare in the United States healthcare system. These fucking evil parasites have fed off of the rest of us for far, far too long. Anyone and Everyone that continues to enable these immoral, foul criminals does not deserve the public trust.

I am sick and fucking tired of "...oh, here comes the Obama haters..."! Wake up and smell the fucking coffee. The poisonous culture of greed that pervades D.C. would even corrupt Jesus Christ eventually.

Larry Flint has got some points, and damned good ones at that. And obviously, he still has his balls.

But he didn't have to lie about Obama bailing out the banks.

Obama to "grow" whatever. They don't know what bravery is and they don't know what the plan is..all they have is their view.

But, it sounds real big and Macho..:he man:.

The real problem is that 95% of this BASE doesn't have a pair. If we spent half the time going after Republicans, Blue Dogs and their funding and so forth rather than bitching about Obama, the spineless wonders in congress would be running from us.

napoleon in rags!

change and progress. Obama is not doing what he was elected to do: dragging the Blue Dogs kicking and screaming to the change that the American people want and need. Obama is a nice guy, but he needs to put some pressure on those who obstruct the change he promised.

He has to take back center stage on health care. He did a good job in the town halls. Now he needs to get on national TV and confront the lies and scare tactics of the far right and the hysterical talk show hosts head on. Bravo for Larry Flynt. I don't like gambling or Larry Flynt's magazines (although I believe he has a right under the First Amendment to publish them), but I agree with his advice to Obama.

stop the obstructionists - call them out for what they are doing. I completely agree.

The Republican base are at it all the time, 24/7, always trying to increase their influence through all kinds of channels. (If you don't believe me, look at the media!) But we have gotten into this mentality where we elect somebody, and we think we can just sit back while they fight single-handedly against an active opposition machine of hundreds of thousands while we watch on TV. This attitude minimizes our effectiveness, in my opinion.

Well we know that at least 50% of us don't :eyes:

I kid... you're spot on, napolean. We've lived so long in the shadow of the conservative "majority" that we seem ill equipped to handle being in the driver's seat now. And we *are* in the drivers seat. So why the hell are we so bent on taking our directions from the back seat?

Sorry. :)

I think its just like you say, an attitudinal thing. People wanted Obama elected SO BAD that you could almost hear the prayers "Oh God, give us this intelligent black man as president in place of Bush and we will never ask for anything else ever again!" But the problem is just that, that we HAVEN'T asked for anything again. We've settled. And in doing that we've thrown away the spirit that got Obama elected in the first place: AUDACITY. We need to be bold enough to ask for more, and not to settle, but to keep fighting on a daily basis...

PEace!

you got nothing to lose.

At first I thought it was from Bobby McGee by Janis and my brow furrowed in confusion.

Then I realized it was from the song my screen name comes from, and I smiled in illumination.

Then I thought of it as a reference to the poverty affecting so many and I nodded solemnly.

But then, I realized the subject of conversation was having a pair, and I ROTFL'ed knowing great enlightenment!!! :)

When someone DOES something like take a paralyzing bullet -- then continues to risk everything to fight original neo-fascist Jerry Falwell all the way to the (formerly) Supreme Court to defend your right to publicly belittle him -- I'd say he may well "know what bravery is."

As for someone who DOES fail to take even a political/electoral risk, to fulfill his oath-bound duty to abide by and enforce the laws and treaty obligations our greater generations fought and died to forge? Not so much.

Bravery is as bravery does too.

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But Larry Flynt became a paraplegic when he was shot by someone who hated what he published. To overcome that and remain in the public eye took some courage.

All the sexual and arguably misogynistic imagery is a bit hard to take though Larry is a pornographer first and foremost.

The sentiment is okay. I want Obama to push for what is right even if it is behind the scenes.

But grow some? Shut up. Really.
I don't like a lot of what Obama does and he foolishly never calls me for advice. But anyone willing to handle the multitude of problems this country is facing has some already and Obama faces more threats, nasty rumors and hatred than any president has. He knew he would. More gonads than I would have. So again, shut up with that language Flynt

But yes Obama, get tough with those getting in the way of real reform

are very brave.

I believe Pres Obama is doing it how he feels best to get the job done and that wouldn't be on anyone else's time schedule.

When slugs like Gingrich, Cheney, Bush, Limbaugh, Kristol, Bolton, or (fill in the blank) say it, I have to laugh because they've never risked anything in their sorry lives. However, in this case, Flynt is 100% right in his sentiments and if you know about his past, you'll know he walks the walk. No one could ever accuse him of cowardice. Obama rode into office on a wave of hope that our government would be restored to the people, as it should be. I know he has to be careful and I know he wants a broad consensus, but at some point he will have to bring out the big stick. Two things we must never forget in this debate: the corporations are not going to willingly allow a cut in their profits and the GOP will do anything to undermine this administration.

Nah, not gonna go there.

It's hard to criticize Larry. He's disgusting in his own way but I once saw him being wheeled around in Las Vegas. His condition is really cruel.

It's not the Republicans.

They're irrelevant. It's the Democrats acting like Republicans and unfortunately, there are enough of them to squash anything they want.

When you have Democrats like Ben Nelson, who the fuck NEEDS Republicans?

are not supporting the will of the American people.

He is just not using it to get when needs to be done, done. Which begs the question, what does he really want to do?

He can yell and scream and parade them around, but that doesn't mean shit if they still oppose his plan.

The Blue Dogs aren't going to buckle unless they get pressure from their constituents. Obama can only do so much here.

Some of you people act as if Obama can snap his fingers and get them to fall in line.

That just isn't the case. Many of these Blue Dog Democrats would LOVE for Pres. Obama to come out against them because it'd play well to their base support at home.

Until that base support is actually beating down the doors and demanding they vote on a public option, they'll get away with it.

And right now, most of Americans are falling right in line with the Republican bullshit machine because the only person out there talking about healthcare reform and the advantages of it is Pres. Obama.

Which creates a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts.

If any Democrat is seen as harming Obama's presidency or his re-election prospects, it will also be THEY who gets shoved aside.

I know it's hard to believe there are Democrats who run away from Obama, but happens. Remember the dustup of those group of Dems who didn't go to the convention because they didn't want to be seen embracing the national party? These Democrats, the Blue Dog fucks, are all of the same ilk.

They WANT to appear to be a thorn in Obama's side because many come from states where Obama's approval rating is probably below 50%.

Look at MY Blue Dog, Jim Matheson. He skipped the convention last year, in 2002 ran ads with him and fucking Bush at the White House and has not openly embraced anything national about the Democratic Party since arriving in Washington.

That isn't going to change if Obama gets tough with him. And if he harms Obama's re-election prospects, well that probably benefits him here because his district was dominated by John McCain in the 2008 election. In fact, I'd wager his district is probably the most conservative held by a Democrat.

The only way you're going to get to these guys is if THEIR constitutents raise hell.

Not the president.

It takes the VOTERS to call and write and demand. Because right now, many of these Blue Dogs aren't scared of their voters, so they feel they can get away with it. And you know what? They probably will because too many people are passive.

And too many people still refuse to join Obama. How many Democrats are out there really fighting for this? They've allowed the Republicans and media to hijack the message and it's not only begun to drive down Pres. Obama's numbers, but the healthcare numbers.

So that just drives these Blue Dogs further away from what Obama wants.

:rofl:

If, after all that has happened over the last quarter century, you are still under the illusion that the voters are anything more than a bi-annual annoyance, well good luck to you.

Americans are going to sit idly by and watch their elected officials sell them upstream.

These people know they aren't at risk of losing their seat, even with all the threats Obama makes.

Why? Because Americans don't hold their feet to the fire. That's never going to change until we change it.

Saying Obama needs to do this or that is delusional, because it assumes these elected leaders fear their constituents enough to actually go about enacting change. They don't and they'll continue to get away with it. Obama knows, you know, I know and most importantly, they know.

Well I'm glad you agree with my point

support from the party. Without that support they have virtually no chance to be re-elected and they know it.

So the question remains, what is it that he wants to do? What has he done to help the millions of ordinary people that put him in office?

You know it because it's a catch 22. If you pull the funds, they lose and a Republican gets their seat.

I love DU, but some of you people are woefully naive and simplistic. It just doesn't work as perfect as you think it does.

These Democrats aren't scared because they know they hold power. They hold power because many of them are the reason we're at 60 senate seats and a large majority in the house. Many of those Democrats were elected in moderate to conservative districts and states and they know the Democratic Party can't afford to purge them.

You know how they know? Because the Republicans did just that! The Republicans went out and purged their party of all the moderates. They forced far-right primary candidates, who won and then got embarrassed in a local election against a moderate Democrat. Then they started losing ground in the NE, Midwest and West.

What do the Republicans have now? Sure, they're loud, but they're irrelevant. The Republicans know it and so do the Democrats.

The Democrats can try and purge these blue dog Democrats out and maybe it will work. Maybe you're all right and it's easy. However, what if it doesn't? What if the Democrats purge all these moderate/conservative Democrats out of office and they're replaced by right-wing Republicans?

I know there are many out there who believe there really is no difference, but they're the same who said there was no different between Bush & Gore.

In the end, there is a difference, however slight it may be.

Think back to 1994. Think back to how things could have been different had the Democrats kept some control. But they didn't and it handicapped Clinton to the point where he really wasn't able to do much of anything.

Obama might not be perfect. The Blue Dogs might be a pain in our ass, but losing congress because of a purge would be a far bigger pain in our ass than anything we have now.

So what can we do? Like I said, it's not up to Obama to put them in line. That isn't his job. That's our job. They're representing us, the voters. We need to make them fear us and right now, they don't. They don't fear us because we're being too passive on this issue and allowing the Republicans to frame the debate.

If healthcare fails, it won't be because of Obama. It'll be because of that.

Don't give him any credit for doing anything then. Next time legislation that's favorable to our party passes, give credit to everyone else since, in your eyes, Obama is responsible for nothing.

I never said that. He's out there selling it to the American people through press conferences, interviews, town halls and events. That's his part. If Congress isn't on board, then I blame the people for not pushing them enough.

Obama can't twist their arms. It just isn't going to work that way and if anyone actually believes this, then they're completely ignorant to the current political scene.

within the party? Do you believe he simply appeals to their good nature? Gets them drunk and extracts promises from them?

I never said it was easy, but that difficult task is performed daily, it is what they do. If the national party back a challenger in the primaries they are sunk and they know it. "Politics is war without bloodshed" after all and we all know that all is fair in love and war. All of these assholes are expert at navigating the cesspool and they know how to get done what it is they want to get done.

You seem to believe that there is this group of altruistic people with a righteous agenda that are just doing the best they can. You are the one being naive, they are power hungry sharks whom have chosen to swim in the cesspool because they can feed more and make future feeding easier.

It is the utter lack of principle that fuels this clusterfuck and people like you enable the continued lack through your excuses.

So we come back to the first question, what is it that they are trying to do? What is the real agenda?

It's spelled all out there. It's up to the people. You expect Obama and his administration to do it all. That just isn't fair and if we put it all on Obama's shoulders, HE WILL FAIL.

Right now, Obama is holding press conferences, interviews, town halls and rallies trying to get people to support his healthcare plan. And now you want him to add more to his load. Fuck that.

The American people need to wake up and press their congresspeople and senators to support the president. If they don't, then these congresspeople will feel no heat and won't take the president seriously. Why? Because they goddamn well know when push comes to shove, they hold power.

He can sit there and complain and make all the threats he wants, but if their constituents aren't demanding they do something about it, these elected officials will ignore his cries.

That's what is going on currently and Obama is basically selling this whole healthcare plan on his own. No one else is out there helping.

It's not a surprise this plan is hurting right now because the American people are sitting on their hands.

Until they actually demand their represenatives do something, they'll ignore any threat Obama makes because in the end, they'll still have those back home to vote them into office.

It's the Democrats in leadership positions, like Obama and Harry Reid, who can and should get the members of their caucus in line, that are the problem. Harry Reid has the tools at his disposal to make life difficult for the likes of Ben Nelson, but he refuses to wield any of them.

They're the ones hindering progress.

can get it all done by himself?

That brilliant moment of hope for change is a window, an absolutely historic 'moment'
It's been somewhat squandered in "bipartisanship" and bridge building.
As disillusionment seeps in, that magical moment is being lost.
Bush, the bully, called it capital., even when he didn't have it, he used it.

the gonads thing is dumb, so I wish Obama would just 'kick some butt'.
It's a crisis, be nice and build bridges later.

That President Obama had called the Blue Dogs to the White House, put them on a leash and told them to heel. If they didn't he should have in short order mentioned spaying and neutering, i.e., fundraising, etc. against them. They have bloviated far too long, IMHO, and I don't understand a lot of things.

I really thought that when the RNC memo was leaked about the best strategy for the repukes was to stall and delay, and after DeMint's comments about Waterloo and breaking the President, I really thought that the Blue Dogs would be as incensed as I was and bare their teeth at the repukes they're still trying to make deals with. Not so, they're still trying to make deals and I feel like yelling at them...Why are they still playing footsie with the repukes when on some level they have to know that no matter how much money they receive from the insurance companies, they will be the most hated people in the country if TRUE health care reform fails and they helped the repukes weaken the President.

I suppose that if they get their money, weakening the President and screwing the country is okay. Bastards and word appropriate for the women blue cross dogs.

:dem:

-Laelth

I agree with many of the things said in this article but this is my favorite "You have failed to keep many campaign promises. You’ve ignored civil-liberty violations such as warrantless wiretapping."

he is correct in this

:puke:

Testicular metaphors, denigration of women, schoolyard taunts, and sideline goading is the perfect way to advance intellectual discourse!

edit:typo

How intellectual of you.

I didn't see a whole lot of facts presented.

obama needs to wake the fuck up.

too bad...

I like Obama, I find him charming and his family is lovely. But I want a president that will keep his word and fight the right wingers that made this mess.

Americans.

He's the one who outed all the Republicant hypocrites during the Lewinsky brouhaha.

Larry is no intellectual giant, but his analysis is honest though a bit simplistic.

it makes us all dumber.

Ill placed of course.

Give 'em hell, Larry!:patriot:

I don't care for his line of work at all, but can't find much to disagree with in what he wrote.

:7

:rofl:

Hi, to you too...........

:7

Don't you mean bullshit buster?

How's Michelle's vegetable garden?

What color pants suit did Hillary wear today, I'm sure it was 100 rec fabulous.

:rofl:

You say potato, I say potatoe........

:shrug:

Open conversation across the aisle is good, but compromising away the Democratic mandate of 2006 and 2008 is not. We have the numbers in Congress and the White House too. Democrats are behind the wheel now. This is what all of us worked to make happen. We need to seize the time and suffer no more Republicrat nonsense and pretend solutions. We need to govern based on the strength of our ideas and push for sound policy on the big issues. Anything less is a wasted opportunity.

But, life is full of surprises.

Recommended.

And I will suggest that if our President is so willing to listen to and compromise with troglodyte Republicans, he sure as hell ought to listen to a supporter like Larry Flynt.

Larry's right. Like him, I'm not impressed by Obama's pretty words. We need to see some real action, and so far we haven't gotten much more from him than some big flowery speeches. I guess some folks are happy enough with that, but personally I'd like to see something more substantial than some fancy lectures.

:thumbsup:

...and icky?

Hustler back in the mid to late 70s was epic, in my view.

It's a strange phenomena i've noticed, where folks just mouth some PC inanity without ever thinking about hte subject at hand, presumably in the hopes someone will pat their head and compliment them.

Happens in any group of people I guess.

Flynt's a Constitutional hero of mine, given what he did for the First Amendment. The outrage here about his speaking out is laughable. Bunch of bluenoses doing a holier-than-thou without noticing what he's done and how correct he is.

Grow a pair, Mr. President, indeed.

Flynt's a serious truth-teller......................

He needs to crawl back into his perversion hole, where he can string up naked women all he wants. He has a First Amendment right to do that!

I don't see him holding guns to anyone's head to purchase or pose in his magazine. Whether you agree with his profession or not, I'll take a pornographer's opinion over a bankster like Geithner anyday.

I couldn't care less what he thinks about anything.

just hate democrats, doesn't matter if they are right or not or based on facts...I just hate them...I've always been told to....So I won't listen to them...I just don't like the way they look...they all look like, oh I don't know, different, they wear weird clothes...and if they don't look like me, forget it...

Plus Flynt makes money on sex magazines....I never have nasty pleasures or think impure thoughts, I would never ever allow fantasies to enter my mind, nor have I ever lied or even talked about sex in my entire life...

And to top it off Flynt is a life long democrat ...and we don't approve of his profession, so let the ungodly democrats take his money, but then he should just shut the fuck up!

(Pssst....And did you know he's fat, old, ugly and in a wheelchair, I know he can't help it, but gee, he's does look gross).

Obama is either corrupt or a sissy, or both.

but definitely lacking in testicular fortitude.

:eyes:

how about Larry Flynt in 2012? It is really sad, though, when the only person who is speaking the truth anymore is a porn magnate. I still support Obama, but he really does have to grow a pair. Why is it that every time a Republican gets elected, they come rolling in like a fucking steamroller, do whatever the fuck they want, damn the consequences, and actually get what they want. Meanwhile, a Democratic president, at least in recent times, and who gets elected by a large mandate comes tip toeing in, not wanting to upset any body, and rolling over like a submissive dog. Obama's mistake was surrounding himself with self servers like Rahm Emmanuel, and a shitload of other Clinton leftovers.

why "place nice" with the same fascist assholes who created this mess? republicans don't "play nice," they steamroll. true reconciliation with the working and middle class brainwashed by the rw might happen if democratic principles and policies actually improve their lives. no one wants the same shit we've had for the past 9 (or 30) years.

the left and right seem equally determined to push this bullshit notion since that Obama doesn't do the bluster and cowboy act of GWB that he's weak. We laugh the right when they accuse him of being weak for wanting to engage in diplomacy, but since he doesn't tell the GOP to fuck off on a weekly basis he needs to grow a pair.

Mr Can't Governs stimulus bill is showing signs of working and advanced a health care reform bill further than it ever got before. As for the bailouts I'm sure letting more banks fail would done more wonders for Americans 401k's. When I want opinion on porn I'll know where to go, but when I want serious political analysis I go to someone that has a fucking clue.

Perhaps Flynt's just the guy your looking for....Obama should be pounding the republicans & his party (Democrat blue-dogs) on single payer....not to mention at the very least a strong public option...but you can tell me he doesn't spend too much time wooing and hoping for republican "bipartisan" support when they hate his fucking guts, the republicans laugh at bi-partisan, always have, they have no use for it....they are corporate thugs who steal our tax dollars for themselves and their corporations......

And give this shit it's showing "signs of working" a rest for awhile, it's far too early to make a call come back and pontificate when it's WORKING! I don't even want to get into what Obama has NOT done about the past administration and secrecy that has been a 180 than what he promised on the campaign trail. If wasn't for a few persistent Dems in congress we would of never of seen Rove going to court....And there so much more that Omama believe we should "look to the future" what and forget about the past?

And what is it about Flynt's profession that tell you he can't be as astute on politics as much as any politician including Obama, in your eyes I would guess that goes for actors, musicians lawyer, doctors or anyone else who's not a politician? What did politicians do for a living before they got elected...once elected they magically know everything....But others who are life long democrats and contributors such as Flynt has been, can have no real validity and can't know or see the obvious, point it out, no, if they do they should just shut the fuck up?

I support Obama, voted for him, contributed many times to his campaign, shit, I love Obama. - But there are times I too believe he should say fuck you to the small minority republicans, party of say-no republicans who have said they will never support his legislation, they want him to fail and these corporate fascist hate his guts...instead, stuff it down their fucking throats, as he was overwhelmingly elected to do....not play nice-nice as we've seen Dems do for far too long, years and years and we know it doesn't work...The slimy greedy, hateful lying republicans will absolutely stomp you down and walk right over you on the way to stealing power.

The most important issue is Health Care with a STRONG public option, nothing else really matters if it doesn't get pushed through, for small businesses, our economy, jobs, the health of 100 million uninsured (and the under-insured, to stop the republican, making Obama look weak when they stopped government health care, to keep a Dem majority in coming elections, because there are sick and dying people who can't afford filthy greedy immoral insurance corporations premiums or don't qualify because they are too sick for insurance companies profits...and because it's the right thing to do!
As you heard so often if you don't have your health you don't have anything. This has to get done for reasons mentioned and for many, many more reason of consequence.

Support Obama and demand strong Public Option Health Care for ALL...For the American people, NOT the corporate greedy corporate stockholders & their corporations as has been for far too long.... It's long over due!!

We see how much right wing wants to compromise - oreo's is where we're at now.

Larry Flynt, Sanders, Kucinich, Weiner

We have many heroes; we need more.

(I'm talking about his politics, his ability to cut through hypocrisy. I can't get into his career like many are. If we had enough tough Democrats, we wouldn't have to pay attention to Larry and we could be selective about who we knock and deride.)

Larry Flynt is RIGHT!!!

This OP was well worth it.


Speaking on Obama, Flynt obviously mistakenly believes that this was supposed to be a Magic presidency, and that by now, after six months, he believes the worse of this President. In otherwords, Flynt ain't nothing more than the rest of the bunch who wants their pony right-the-fuck-now, or else all is failed.



In otherwords, President Obama, Larry Flynt thinks you ain't nothing but a worthless piece of shit, who hasn't accomplished anything.

So, not only does this President have to deal with the Racist bullshit eminating from all over the place, including the mainstream media, he also has to deal with those who expected him to have solved all of the nation's problems by now, despite 8 years of ruthless incompetency, a bought and paid for corporate media parroting GOP points as often as possible, the minority party of No and their big ass microphones (handed to them by the media), the bungling "scared of the media" congress, an easily manipulated nation of selfish scared-ass whiners and cowards, some in the base who actually got themselves to believing that Obama was a socialist, as well as those who only need an excuse to pounce on this President for anything and everything he does that they dislike, while never acknowledging what he has done right.

Gawd, I'm so fucking tired of those who have such high expectations, and so little positive to say of anything good that has happened. Good to know who one's friends are, and who it is that can't wait to stab you in the heart......cause you ain't doing it on the timetable they envisioned.

Constructive criticism my ass.

Hell, Flynt may seriously want to think of joining the teabaggers...because apparently, Obama is the sole reason for every fucking thing not being exactly as it should be after six months.

not a thing.

I disagree that Obama is to be our whipping boy....
or that Hillary Voted-"Yeah"-in-Oct-02-but-would-be-really-really-tough-now Clinton would somehow be tougher.

It ain't about being tough...It is still about being smart....
cause the bullies always win at the "let see who's tough" contest,
cause they've got the media and shit as their steroids.

So for me, it is those who calling the game over at the beginning
who are the folks without the balls.
At some point, they may even go so far as not even being able to make it back
at the risk of losing face....and that is a dangerous game,
just in order to have something to yap about.

Yeah....I'm talking to Mr. Flynt and his Recommenders.

Look, I don't agree with Flynt, AT ALL. To be honest, I thought it was hilarious that he said this, that's why I posted it. I didn't know it would get this kind of response, for real.

Hey....according to many at du, Larry Flynt's word seems better than that of this President.

Guess one is superior, and has got all of the answers.

:(

I don't think that Larry is malicious, in fact I think he's like a lot of us who know that Obama is going to have to give up the idea that he's ever going to bring the teabaggin Republicans along with him. They are nutz. Obama needs only 51 votes to push his agenda through Congress and to sign it. Bush and Rove understood that. Obama has gotten nothing back from the GOP by being nice to them, they want him "to fail" they want him to have his "Waterloo" and to "break him".

I don't see Larry as being mad at Obama, but rather him being frustrated in watching Obama try to bring the neanderthals along when they hate him.

I'm glad that Axelrod has Obama's ear. The two of them can get a lot done. But they are not going to ever get any help from the GOP no matter how nice Obama is. They hate him.

That, as they say, is history.

Note: President Obama.

Larry is full of shit, not only because of the "gonads" statement, but also the BS claims he made.

shame it took the porno business to make him rich enough to have a public voice, nonetheless I respect his opinion on this.

the crooks on Wall Street and in Congress, hide their corruption, and lack of character. Better to respect Flynt than any of them.

and BTW, Hustler is quite tame as far as the "erotic" pictures go compared to some magazines that are 100% smut, if you put the tasteless cartoons and nude pictures aside, Hustler is probably the MOST controversial political magazine out there today. I would like to see Flynt publish a mag that is free of "porn" and just political in nature. What he does is parody, and holds up the mirror to American culture in almost everything in the magazine. He exposes our disgust, our bigotry, our so called prurient nature, and shows us that we are not the puritans we claim to be. Yes, he pushes the envelope, but he is using the very protection of the constitution to do that and show us what a wonderful right it is. Most of it is tongue-in-cheek humor. I used to buy hustler in Canada just to read "asshole of the month" and usually, he was bang on in the commentary. No other publication had the guts to write such truth. So, put aside your phony disgust about "sex" and see that he is no worse than the right when they spout their crap which is usually all lies. I would say though, that He is a bit off base about Obama as far as having huevos. I think Obama has yet to really flex his testosterone as I see him as doing things a little more intelligently than we are used to. The Beer summit was brilliant! Who would have thought of something so simple and human! And by laying back a bit and allowing the lawmakers to do their thing, he is letting the people of both parties expose themselves and how dysfunctional some of them really are. Take the "birthers". By just letting this thing run it's course, we are seeing repubs show how stupid and narrow minded they are by holding on to this myth when Obama sits back and keeps his cool, all the while continuing to be President! And as for the health care issue, despite the "progress", lawmakers haven't come to a conclusion or agreement, showing the right as even more obstructionist and without solutions while they fumble with stupid sideshows like birth certificates and killing old folks. His comments have nothing to do with porn, folks, the stigma of his rag are another topic altogether and not even relevant here.

My point was that he is not taken seriously because of the porn, thus he is not in the mainstream, which in my estimation is unfortunate, because I have always agreed with his take on politics in this country, and his view of public officials, particularly Repugs' "hypocrisy."

I guess you missed it!

I totally agree, and I meant to say that exactly...you just said it better, with fewer words :hippie: :toast: :hi:

can never see no wrong and must criticize and focus on anything else, instead of what the other person is saying, they take it so personally instead of saying, yep, Obama needs to be tougher, if one can't accept criticism, it's hard for many who want to believe in fairy tales and perfect people, to at least stay on the issues that are being spoken about, not some peripheral personal attacks that have nothing to do with facts or what was stated.

Larry was friends with Frank and Gail Zappa and that makes him OK in my book.

Also, he says what so many of us think and he gets it all out there for public discourse.

He puts his money where his mouth is a hell of a lot more than I can!

I'm glad Larry is a Dem and not a Republic!

Plus, I think he did try publishing an all political mag 10 or 20 years ago, also?

-90% Jimmy

What bullshit!



Yeah, Larry, Hillary would have had the "gonads" to keep Mark Penn, here Gramm-Leahy-Bliley connected economic advisors and her buddies at the DLC happy.

nonetheless my sentiments exactly.

It started this discussion.

Maybe you and I would have said something like: We won, they didn't. Obama, be brave. Start spending your political capital.

Then, the usual suspects would have arrived to praise Obama. The usual suspects would have arrived to criticize him. But the thread would have sunk more quickly. It would not be on the greatest page.

This time, I agree with Larry.

Larry, thanks for saying so.

but yes, Obama needs a better spine

n/t

Change at a glance, and six months

...and a FU to Larry for this BS letter.

The naysayers were certain Obama wouldn't get his stimulus package (he did), and that it would have no effect (it has).

Obama's Presidency has already made history, and the budget and health care reform will seal it as one of the most progressive and successful in history.

People may not care for Obama's style, but he won despite them, and he'll make reform this country and make history, despite them.

We voted for the wrong Obama

Michelle Obama 2012 !

:rofl:

He was going to release, then wussed out on?

there's a time and place for everything.....even blackmail ;) :)

No politician is perfect. President Obama isn't perfect by any means but had Gore taken office back in 2001, we all would've found plenty of fault with him as POTUS as well. Heck, lots of people had so many problems with him during the campaign and thought him not sufficiently different enough from Bush that they chose not to vote for him at all and instead voted for a third-party candidate. It would've been far better for our country IMHO if he had taken office or if Kerry had won in 2004 but there is not a doubt in my mind that we'd all probably find plenty of things to bitch and moan about in regards to Kerry too, particularly since both he and Gore would've both had to face a hostile Republican-controlled Congress and would've had to severely trim and moderate their agendas to get anything enacted in Congress. Had Hillary won in 2008 instead of Obama, we all would've probably found plenty of things to fault her for too, particularly given the rightward tack she took on many issues during the campaign. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that there may be stuff that we can rightly fault President Obama for doing or not doing or not doing enough of but IMHO the most important thing for me is that that he, not McSame/Quitter, won in 2008 and, whatever his real or perceived flaws, we are, on balance, in a much better position to bring necessary change to this country and keep the wingnuts at bay than we would've been if the other side had won. Yeah, President Obama might do something or another that we don't agree with but it's our job to let him know how we feel and to get him to try to get him to change his mind and I think that he is more the type of person who is willing to listen to constructive criticism than McSame EVER would've been, particularly from us.

had some interesting things to say in the manner he is accustomed to and he has every right to say it. What I take from it plus after reading all of your comments is:

Obama: Forget bi-partisanship (Crush the Republicans they aren't going to change)
Have a good talk with Harry Reid (grow a spine and brain)
Take off your gloves Mr. President ( we've got your back)
Senate do your duty and leave Baucas behind (Elect another Leader of the committee.)

Democrats: Start the letters, emails and phone calls to your congressmen, especially Blue Dogs and tell them in no uncertain terms that we want a health care for all like Medicare.

We have to help Obama out. Lets stand up and demand action. Health care has been on the outs for 50 years. Lies and deceit to scare the people. We need to demand that our needs be met. Even though my congressman is a Blue Dog, Larry Moore, he has been sending me letters daily asking my input on health care. He is one of the better guys in this red state of Kansas and the only Democrat in office after Sebelius stepped down for Obama which I hate because she was pegged to run for the Senate to replace Brownback.

Larry mentions disloyal democrats. His op and some of the posters on this thread fit that description.

Are you bitter primary losers really surprised he has tried to bring the republicans on board? It may be impossible to do but FFS Obama has been preaching this since his 2004 convention speech.

David Brooks said recently that it is changing and the white house is starting to take on a more war like attitude (much too early in Brook's opinion) but you shouldn't be surprised that Obama is doing what he said he would do.

It's interesting to see so many on the left buy into the utter bullshit that Republicans spread about Democratic policies.

He's always been more fun, though. :evilgrin:

nice to hear.:thumbsup:

and co signed.