Taxes on Middle Class may go up to pay for health reform, no MENTION of taxing wealthy

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090803/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_economy

"Two of President Barack Obama's economic heavyweights said middle-class taxes might have to go up to pare budget deficits or to pay for the proposed overhaul of the nation's health care system."

There is not a word in this article about taxing the wealth.

Last week we were hearing it would be the wealthy who would bear the tax increases for health reform. Has this been dropped? I seem to recall that the blue dogs had successfully fought against increasing taxes on the wealthy, but I am unable to find a link. Does anybody have that information?

Increasing taxes on the middle class?

Tax the people who have the MONEY. The 5% of the population with 90% of the wealth. Tax them.

It won't be enough? Well, then GET RID OF THE INSURANCE COMPANIES PROFITS with a single payer system.

And, then cut the damn military budgets and end the boondoggles in Iraq & Afghanistan.

Not one single dime should be taxed from the middle class or working poor (the terms are quite blurred at this moment) until these steps have been taken.

You place one more straw on the camel's back & the 'middle class' will break in two.

The 52,000 American tax cheats with accounts in UBS Bank! And that's only one bank! Go after them and the rest with off-shore tax accounts to escape not paying the IRS.

The middle class is already paying for their ****ing war; it's way past time for the oligarchs to pull their fare share! :grr:

Because, you know, that's definitely in line with everything else he's been doing.

:sarcasm: tag there... ;)


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"Two of President Barack Obama's economic heavyweights said middle-class taxes might have to go up to pare budget deficits or to pay for the proposed overhaul of the nation's health care system."


Because so far, all I've seen is them refusing to say that there won't be new taxes. Remember, Obama promised to raise taxes by eliminating the Bush tax cuts, and he promised not to raise taxes on people making 250k.


With the healthcare debate dragging into August, this does seem like amazingly bad timing for cabinet members to be giving the right red-meat.

The plan already calls for taxing the rich in the form of a surcharge to pay for health care reform. This article is about additional taxes on the middle class in order to make the plan deficit neutral.

People will make up any old shit to bash the Democrats and the administration these days.

Take place.

Cutting the military budget. Stopping the boondoggles in Iraq & Afghanistan. Taxing the wealthiest citizens.

See how much money you could get from those actions, and then, we can talk about taxing the 'middle class' (the new working poor).

As for no taxes on the m.c., it depends on what they mean. If you are lucky enough to have insurance now, even in single payer, that premium would be shifted to a payroll tax, increased income tax or premium to a public option.

Contrary to what some people think, health care is not going to be "free." Doctors still have to get paid, orderlies have to get paid, nurses have to get paid -- however it's financed.

They never said there may be taxes on the middle class but none on the rich. It is a pure invention from the RW media.

Cause so far all I've heard is the media "saying" that officials have said this. Then they show Geithner not saying anything about raising taxes at all.

I think that they think that we are stupid, and will just go with what they, the media, is saying, and they hope we believe it....but officials ain't said none of that.

It would be good to check, don't you think, prior to posting just any old bullshit? Otherwise, it might make some question your credibility otherwise.....Debbierlus, aka Bad News Bear.

on what was said. I'm not. Plus you added to the spin with the false statement about a tax on the wealthy not being mentioned.

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demagoguery?

3. to treat or manipulate (a political issue) in the manner of a demagogue; obscure or distort with emotionalism, prejudice, etc.

Right, Debbie?

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I have hard believing that you haven't heard about the proposal

No Passaran (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-03-09 03:43 PM
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"WH shoots down talk of middle-class tax rise
"The president was clear during the campaign about his commitment on not raising taxes on middle-class families," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Monday afternoon. "I don't think any economist would believe that, in the environment that we're in, that raising taxes on middle-class families would make any sense."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/03/obama.economy/index.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8566976

without all the superfluous filler in that article, they can read the transcript from the press briefing.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Briefing-by-White-House-Press-Secretary-Robert-Gibbs-8/3/09/

I keep forgetting those are available, it really helps cut through the journalists agenda, when you can see the question they asked, and exactly what the answer was.

In this case the question was asked half a dozen different ways.

another of your Obama bashing OP's shot down in flames. It's been shown to be the pure bullshit that it was when the "liberal" MSM spun it out of control. There will be no taxes on the middle class.

Sorry, you'll have to find something that might stick to bash Barack over. Hey, maybe you can join the birthers, they're recruiting I hear.

Is the GOP paying you well to spread their lies or did you decide to do it on your own?

Gibbs flatly denied this bullshit today.

Learn it. Use it. Live it.

overall. The saving are set to be significant so it won't leave people worse of in the long haul but better off I'd say.

It's so persuasive when you do that.