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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:15 PM
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I contacted both Senators to urge them to approve additional funding for "Cash
for Clunkers."

I am sure that they will, but just in case there is a campaign by the RWers, they also need to hear from the rest of us.

It provides taxable revenue for the dealers and taxable income for the salesmen who can then purchase their kids back to school supplies, perhaps even keep their homes.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:23 PM
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1. It's a crappy program that costs way more than the benefits
it provides are really worth. They and we would have been much better off just giving away a billion to poor people.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:32 PM
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2. We stopped at a couple of car dealer lots last week and they're thrilled
Cars are flying off the lots, especially Chrysler.

We may take advantage of this since we looked at the numbers and would do very well. So your assessment doesn't add up in our situation. Frankly, I don't mind our tax dollars coming back to us.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:34 PM
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3. It's not good for the environment
lots of cars piling up at the dumps.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 02:39 PM
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4. So using far less fuel doesn't add up to a plus at all in your book
I'm not buying your allegation. Getting my gas guzzler off the road will be a good thing.

Besides, scrap metal will be sold off, too. I'm a recycling proponent but suit yourself.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 06:09 AM
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12. Let's be thoughtful about this. If congress and the admin
wanted to decrease the use of fossil fuels they would take that $3B and start a program to find the REPLACEMENT for the internal combustion engine. As it is the program sold a few more SUV's than we were going to buy anyway. It was a give-away to already committed buyers that also has the effect of luring a few thousand people that were going to keep driving their fully paid for, completely serviceable vehicle for a while longer to go into debt for another $25,000 or more to get maybe 5 or if lucky 10 MPG better gas mileage. At what cost? The program is much better for banks than the people. It's much better for Exxon than trying to find a real answer to our fossil fuel problem.



If we could find a reliable, cost effective replacement for the internal combustion engine we would be much further ahead but where would that leave Exxon?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:45 PM
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5. It is better than the bailout from last fall
that did not do much to get people to buy the cars.

Our economy is more than 2/3 service oriented. This is why many lament that people save "too much." The reality is that in order to get out of the recession we need to start consuming and purchasing cars, at least moving the inventory, is as good a start as any.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 04:02 PM
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6. right now any program that has a direct bearing on job creation is a good plan


This one is going to help keep factories open while the recovery gains steam.


It also reduces polution and importation of gas.


No program is perfect but this one is a good one when you are in a job loss slide.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 12:06 PM
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13. It is a great program that will boost manufacturing, too.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 04:08 PM
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7. not to mention sales tax for the states
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 04:34 PM
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8. I'd sure like to know who the tool was that wrote the
opinion piece on Cash for Clunkers in USAToday. That was a bullshit piece of work.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2009/08/our-view-clunkers-program-sputters.html#more
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 04:48 PM
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9. This is one program that many from the left and the right like
except the idiots who, first, hate any "government program" - until they benefit from one, or just need to rally their supporters back home.

Some idiotic Republican Congressmen, and McCain and the twitting one from Missouri, perhaps even Diane Feinstein who think that this would be a great opportunity to show their voters who "independent" they are. Watch how quickly they change their mind when their inbox and voice mail are flooded with calls from dealers and sales personnel from their districts.

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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 05:03 PM
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10. Like I said, the unnamed opinion writer at USAT did
nothing but attack the program every way he/she could. It was like a DeMint press release. No mention of the positive kick it is giving the auto industry, no mention of the positive move replacing lesser MPG and more polluting cars, with greater MPG and less polluting ones, and finally, no mention of the contribution the program has made in a short time to the general economic optimism of many voters. Obviously it is that last one that really pisses them off... they are with DeMint, break Obama and the country be damned.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 05:44 PM
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11. And now the Republicans say that even though they are against it
because of the "chaos," they will not block it.

What creeps they are.

No doubt, they've heard from their constituents.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 04:38 PM
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14. No kidding who wouldn't like this: The government will give
me $4500 for something I was going to do anyway?

I'm going to Atlantic City to play poker next week, think they'll give me some cash to help out? The hotel will have to employ lots of people to provide service while I'm there, the casino will have employees to provide service while I'm there, the NJ Turnpike has employees taking tolls....oops I use easy pass, well the state will have police on the road trying to catch me speeding (I have a radar detector), the gas station in Runnemeade has employees to pump gas (no self-serve in NJ) that I will purchase, I'll have at least a meal or some snacks on the five hour trip.

Hell, I'm a one man economic tsunami, I deserve at least $4500 for this trip. Jesus, just think if I was going to Vegas!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:21 PM
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15. If I called my Senators, I would be told by one to "get bent" and by the other "who cares, I quit!"
God bless Texas.
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