Local Rush clone said that health bill would pay for bike paths.

It would also pay for construction of farmers' markets as a way to promote healthy life styles. Does anyone know the truth about this? it is so hard to keep up with the outright lies and half-truths that these jerks toss out.

Of course, since the bill isn't finalized it's still quite up in the air what will be in it, but I HOPE such is in the final bill. More bike paths and farmer's markets are health related subjects, and we sure could use them.

prevention is the best health care

If they don't give a bill number, such as HR3200 (House Resolution 3200) or The Affordable Health Choices Act which is the bill from the Senate HELP committee, then they aren't taking about anything specifically, they are just mudding the water. Thay might not even be talking about any thing in any bill, but about what some congress person said or verbally proposed.

some one has to make those paths and I am sure there are more then a few that could use them.

I downloaded a copy of HR 3200 (you can too: http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf) and ran a search for the words farmer, bicycle, bike and paths. Unsurprisingly, they appear nowhere in the bill.

I will use the technique you explained next time I have research to do.

Exercise is the most important factor in maintaining health, for most people nowadays.

You know, like a beer cozy? They're gonna buy billions of them from China, then march sick people into the national forests to wrap the trees. I hear they're going to pay special attention to trees beside bike paths.

"...A draft Senate bill would provide up to $10 billion annually for a "prevention and public health investment fund" -- a portion of which could be used for infrastructure projects, such as bike paths and farmers markets meant to curb chronic and costly conditions like obesity.

But though some lawmakers believe these initiatives could trim American waistlines and costs in the long run, others consider them pork-barrel spending.

One critic, Sen. Michael B. Enzi of Wyoming -- an accountant who is the top Republican on the Health, Education, Labor and Pension Committee -- called the provisions "wasteful spending" during a time of record deficits.

The bill will "pave sidewalks, build jungle gyms and open grocery stores," Enzi said, "but it won't bring down healthcare costs or make quality coverage more affordable."

But advocates say preventive efforts will bring down costs.

"We know these programs work," said Rich Hamburg, director of government relations for the Trust for America's Health, a nonpartisan organization that works to make disease prevention a national priority.

"In and of itself, prevention makes sense."

http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourhealth/policy/articles/debating_preventions_place_in_healthcare_bill.html

edit to add original LA Times link- http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-healthcare-infrastructure-2009aug03,0,7037785.story

of the two talking points:

"It has this in it ... " (insert ludicrous and phoney claim)

and

"How can we support it if we don't know what's in it, since nobody's posted it?"

What's wrong with them?