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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 08:08 PM
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Yes, Rush Limbaugh, Hitler was ALL about setting up a single payer health care system
Asshole.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 08:11 PM
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1. Complete bullshit! Let's see your proof pigman-Nazi's were about corporations industry imperialism
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 08:28 PM by LaPera
certainly not what the people concerns & needs were...Their only concern for the people was to insure blind loyalty & conformity for workers & soldiers, and women only job, submissiviness and to create more and more workers & soldiers....for the ruling fascist.

Exactly as the republicans ideology is ALL about...hate lies greed, workers should have no rights, racism, and women are there only to procreate.

They promised the people everything (as the republicans do) but it really was about was divide & conquer and never delivered on nothing but for themselves and the corporate state....corporate & military control is all they cared about!

How different are the republicans?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:34 AM
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7. "Nazi's were about corporations"
I hear this a lot. It isn't terribly backed up with fact--or at least, it isn't any more backed up than the RW claims that Hitler was a lefty are. The German economic program was strongly centrally planned and controlled, there was effective state control of all means of production, and stability was prized over growth. Claiming Hitler was "about corporations" because he destroyed trade unions and workers' rights is a bit like claiming he was "about liberalism" because he had a centrally planned economy with state-funded public welfare programs. Sure, it works if you take one piece out and look at it in a vacuum, but it doesn't make much sense in the whole.

Nazi Germany tended economically rightist, in that it reinforced rather than redistributed wealth. However, it wasn't significantly more rightist than America is. The economic policies of Nazi Germany are mostly remarkable in the extent to which they became apparatuses of state power and of state ideological influence, as well as the extent to which massive military expansion was underneath economic growth.

In many ways, Rush's statement is correct: Obama's economic plan does look a bit like Hitler's, because both involve state spending on programs to provide jobs, with the theory that those newly employed will spend their paychecks, encouraging more production, encouraging the creation of more jobs, etc. However, that isn't saying a whole lot. Most every government in the modern era, when faced with economic problems, has resorted to the same playbook. The similarities between Obama's economic program and Hitler's are the same similarities you'd find between any two economic programs designed to stimulate a stalled economy.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 08:55 PM
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2. Rightwingnuts just REFUSE to accept facts; Hitler was a rightwingnut.
Fascism is RIGHTwing.

The origin derives from the British parliament building. If you stand in front of the British parliament building, facing the
door, the House of Commons is to your left, and the House of Lords is to your right. Therefore, in the
19th Century, left-wing came to mean poor, and right-wing came to mean rich.

http://www.geocities.com/jefferywinkler/politerm.txt


I assume all republicans, especially freepers, are rich.

Otherwise, they're voting against their own (and their kids') best interests.






Of course, it could just be they're the stupidest MFers on the planet.

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Konza Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:45 AM
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5. Right v Left, Limbaaa historical idiot
I think it goes back further than that. During the French rev. supporters of the monarchy and other conservatives sat on the right, more radical elements on the left. Moderates sat in the middle/plain.

also, this latest limpballs rant about Hitler and health insurance misses some history. Surprise!
Freakin Otto von BISMARK got national health care for Germany-in 1883! The german system was around long before the nazis.
The Europeans are a century ahead on this issue, as well as some others!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:19 AM
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6. Why are there so many ridiculous etymologies for "RW" and "LW?"
Edited on Fri Aug-07-09 01:20 AM by Occam Bandage
Seems like every week someone's posting about how it came from this or that, and they never really make much sense. I mean, this is better than "because the eagle on the quarter has arrows in one foot and olive branches in the other," but I suppose that isn't saying much.

It's true that the House of Commons is on the northern end of the Palace of Westminster and the House of Lords on the southern. However, there are a few problems beyond that. First, people rarely refer to buildings as "left" and "right," and when they use those directionalities, they more often do so from the perspective of the building itself facing out, rather than from a perspective outside the building and facing it. Secondly, the Palace of Westminster doesn't have a simple left-right layout. Rather, it's a large complex with many buildings/rooms in it, two of which are the houses of Parliament. It's true that from St. Stephen's Entrance the Chamber of Lords is "to the right" and the Chamber of Commons is "to the left," but given that one cannot see both houses from any one point, it's fairly unlikely that anyone would have thought to refer to them as such. Thirdly, and most importantly, we know where the terms come from and that ain't it. The first attested political use of the terms "left wing" and "right wing" in English are in Thomas Carlyle's 1837 The French Revolution: A History.

In the Estates-General, the representatives of the First Estate, being the nobility, were seated on the right, the Second Estate (the Church) in the center, and the Third Estate, or the general public, were seated on the left. Similar arrangements can be found throughout Europe; seating those closest to the King on his right is a long-standing and commonplace tradition. The first recorded use of the terms "left-wing" and "right-wing" are during the early days of the Revolution, and refer to the two major political blocs that coalesced in the Estates-General before the Tennis Court Oath: the right wing of the assembly, which was in favor of autocratic power, economic interests, and retaining the social structure, and the left wing of the assembly, which was in favor of democratic power, economic reconfiguration, and drastic social change.

Check a dictionary.

Oh, and Hitler did engage in quite a few social welfare and public-health programs. Of course, he also wrote a book, drove a car, and owned a dog, and I don't think anyone would call a dog-owning author with a car a Nazi for those reasons alone. Hitler was on the economic right to be sure, but he was hardly libertarian about much of anything.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:31 PM
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3. Definitely, Hitler was on the far, far right of the political spectrum, not unlike republicans.
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 09:39 PM by GreenTea
But Limbaugh knows this, that's his brilliance, (like the evil Lex Luthor) how to lie, twist and use anything to advance his sick hateful republican corporate fascist ideology.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:03 PM
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4. He opened his mouth. Out came a lie. Never fails.
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