Listen to Rahm, seriously. Enough "pressure from the left."

Obama is doing absolutely everything that is possible in this environment.

He has the GOP rioting in the streets for God's sake.

No more "pressure from the left," it could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

If that happens you're complicit with the Repugs in destroying the Obama presidency, which is the biggest hope we've had in decades.

...and their useful idiots.

And we can see where that's gotten us these past thirty years.

Add more info please.

It's a staple around here.

They're like zombies, they dont stop until they've eaten your brain.

Obama keeps listening to pressure from the RIGHT.

Right wing blue dogs. Right wing DLC. Right wing Wall Street Whores like $ummers and the Keebler Elf. Not to mention Rahm, and his brother the wannabe Medicare corporatizer. And his other brother, the RIAA shill who wants to sue you for what's on your Ipod.

The LEFT is who elected Obama, and we're the ones who he is NOT hearing from because of assholes like Emanuel acting as gatekeepers.

Obama invoked FDR in previous speeches saying that change begins with us and that we should "make him do it".

And I plan on holding him to that. If right wingers have a problem with that, go back to your own goddamn party and quit ruining mine.

:applause:

Uh . . . no way.

"I agree, now make me" mold? And if so, wouldn't backing off be the exact opposite of what he would want us to do?

Surprised? Not so much.

LBJ must be spinning like a top right now. I am sick of this administration pandering to Blue Cross Dogs and repukes, and dissing the very people who got Obama elected. ENOUGH!:grr:

How about a nice Brewski (your choice)
:toast:

And if we had an LBJ in office, I bet we would have SINGLE PAYER UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE by now.

I'll take you up on the Brewski-this is enough to make your drink yourself into a coma.:toast:

You think Obama is not doing enough? He's pushing to the absolute limit.

He "gets it" as well as any of us and he's smarter and has more information than all of us. And he has a brilliant organization working for him.

He has actually pushed the conservatives to the point of civil unrest.

And he's already talking about a "Plan B" legislative strategy that would enact reform with no Republican votes.

Give them a damn chance already.

Some people are really good at shooting themselves in the foot as they near the finish line.

the more we need to counter it. Why should we allow the right to be the only activists on the scene?

If we are quiet, we are complicit in allowing the status quo.

But the target should not be the President.

it would behoove us to take a few cues from them as to where we can put our energy to get our agenda support. Number one - get to the town hall meetings, LTTE, etc.

obama is just some kind of spokesman who is tasked with soothing the masses. Democracy is gone, get used to it. Look at healthcare--complete bullshit with these co ops and mandated coverage with nothing close to a strong public option to keep industry honest-in short another giveaway.

Obama will deliver the best (i.e. most "progressive") reforms possible...but that will only happen if those on the left get on board and focus on the real enemy - the mobish defenders of the shitty status quo.

And he's all about the middle class.

Right.

Sorry, you would never believe the truth anyway.

Try me - I'm all about evidence.

Seriously, save it for the enemy that is trying to destroy America.

Well, it doesn't really matter, because you're going to lose.


The Obama administration has every opportunity to build a political alliance with the left that helped elect him, instead of shutting them out and trying to fight fires on both decks. Its the way they are rolling the dice, and they gotta deal with it. Opinion polls simply told em there was far more votes to be won in the center.

not responding so much anymore. Once you tell people you don't even want their input, you can't very well expect them to go out and work and fight for you. If they're going to take a "shut up and take what we give you" attitude, the very most they can realistically ask for is for people to vote for them on election day. And I hope they're not so foolish as to hope even for that if they deliver an abortion of a healthcare bill that doesn't include a robust public option. I'm a yellow dog Democrat -- I always vote Democratic at the general election, but if they're gonna be tools, that's about all I'm doing for them other than slapping on a bumper sticker and putting up a yard sign.

I say we drive even harder. I say we keep pushing. Keep provoking the subhuman sacks of shit until they do something stupid.

Eventually, they will. Eventually, they'll cross the line, maybe with an act of violence, yes, and when that happens, WE SMACK THE FUCKERS DOWN!!!

If they want a war, I say we give them one. There are things far worse than violence.

No way I'm giving them a pass on this. Give us health care for all and forget about the GOP rioters. Let the cops deal with them the same way they would deal with anti-war protesters.

The rioters on the right are getting all the news coverage, they're getting the ear of the people in power. THe rest of us are being ignored. I think we need to step it up. They're obviously not getting enough pressure from the left if they still insist on getting the Republicans on board. Fuck them they aren't interested in getting something that will work for all of us they're only interested in doing what's best for the insurance companies. There needs to be MORE pressure from the left; not less.

Or substitute Kucinich for Nader.

Dennis Kucinich did not win the election folks.

He didn't even have an impact.

who are funding these RW terrorists, then Rahm should be looking for a new job. After 8 years of Republican scum in power, we must not let them go any further.
I'd like to see Obama get a second term, but if he is just going to be a figurehead, then he should go back to the Senate.



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Gee, I wonder which way the country will drift then? With all due respect that is the dumbest plan I ever heard.

and this smells just as bad as the crap we heard from the Vichy Democrats.

what they're doing.

We're not complicit.

We're not responsible for what the thugs are doing.

Frankly, for Rham and people like you to say STFU, is disingenuous.

Geez...get a grip on reality.