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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:43 PM
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How is an approval rating of 56-40 bad?
That's a mighty large difference.

Would an election victory of that margin be considered a squeaker?

Would winning a game by 16-points be considered close?

Would enjoying a solid majority of support from the American people be considered bad?

So how can anyone really look at 56-40 as bad?

56-40 is damn good!

56-40 is an approval rating that not only guarantees a president an election win, but a landslide.

But they keep telling me his ratings are falling...falling...falling.

Assholes.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:44 PM
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1. Anything that is equal/higher than the election result (52-47) is a-ok with me
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 10:44 PM by PBS Poll-435
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:52 PM
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2. It's not..... Bush left office with 22-70..... how soon we forget
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:55 PM
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3. I guess because they expected him to stay at 65% forever.
That would mean he essentially gets 100% support from Democrats, 100% from Independents, and 20% from Republicans, to make up 65% of the electorate approving.

In other words, because he couldn't continue do this virtually impossible task after 6 months, well after any 'honeymoon' is over, he's failing. :eyes:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:55 PM
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4. With 9% unemployment? It's fucking stellar
And everybody knows it.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:57 PM
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5. Sssshh! Your ruining the narrative!
"Obama's slipping numbers" and "Health care bill in trouble" are the story and no amount of reality is going to get in the way of a good plot line.
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falcon97 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 08:11 AM
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16. Exactly. n/t
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:02 PM
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6. Last Time I Looked...
At this point in his presidency, Obama had the tenth-lowest job approval rating of the 12 post-WWII presidents, and had the steepest decline from inauguration day.

I know, I know, I'm a horrible depressing person, what with my "facts" and "reality" and all that other crap. (Facts have a well-known Liberal bias, don't you know?)
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:05 PM
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7. Wow, you're so right!
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 11:05 PM by Drunken Irishman
Why didn't I think of it that way?

You've convinced me!

Obama sucks and is a failure because his approval rating is only at 56%.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:10 PM
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8. Go With That
Good luck.
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:13 PM
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9. LMAO!!!
You want to compare him to the previous 12? Tell me, how many walked into the shit hole that he did? My guess is not many if any.

But you continue to show your hatred of the man. Facts? Cherry picked, kinda like Republicans do all the time.

The man is doing the best he can with the shit hand he was dealt. You're not a supporter of his and it shows in your daily postings.

Honestly, this place just continues to go further and further in bashing the man because he won't kiss ass. Yeah yeah, I'm sure I'll read "doesn't kiss ass? he kisses Republican ass all the time" to which I say bullshit.

So while you try and shine a negative light on a 56% approval rating, I will continue to look at it as a major accomplishment considering the status of our country right now.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:18 PM
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11. And clearly that lines up with how good those presidents were.
So we should pay a lot of attention to polls this early.

George Bush was awesome and Clinton was a disaster.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:20 PM
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12. Reagan ruled!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:22 PM
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13. Look again





Obama Honeymoon Continues; 7 Months Is Recent Average

Because Obama has been able to maintain above-average approval ratings, he is arguably still in the honeymoon phase of his presidency. Now in his sixth month in office, his honeymoon has already exceeded the durations of those for Ford, Clinton, and George W. Bush. If he can maintain ratings above 55% through the summer, his honeymoon will match the length of those for Jimmy Carter and Reagan.

link


Barack Obama's Term Average: 62%
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:52 AM
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15. Thank you for the figures
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:24 PM
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14. George H. W. Bush and his lovely son also had extremely high
approval ratings during their presidencies...in the 80% range. That means so much doesn't it, because they went out extremely low. Bill Clinton was in the 40's at one point early in his Presidency but left quite popular and above 60%. Jimmy Carter had a 60% approval rating during this time period per Gallup and he did not win reelection. Let me know when poll #'s predict the outcome of a presidency. I will be waiting...

Obama has the people who voted for him still as he is slightly above what he went in with. Half the Rethugs are crazy nutsos (just look at the town hall meetings) and the other half are ill informed. That leaves the independents and Dems. Obama does need to hold onto them but their #'s are still high enough to register a 56% approval rating per Gallup.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 09:53 AM
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17. Because a democratic black president has to hit 75% to be "average"
Edited on Fri Aug-07-09 09:53 AM by SoCalDem
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:32 AM
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18. Is this NBC? Yeah they were making it sound just horrible, the corporate bastards
47% voted against him in '08 and 40% oppose him now. As the economy improves so will his rating.
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:37 AM
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19. Polls
Same reality the MSM will not tell you.The so called saint Reagan had 60 percent approval at this time In 1981 only 4 points higher
than Obama.Yes Bush senior was higher but untill the recesion hit and he was seen as out of touch he was well liked.Back In 1989
some Democrats liked him better than Reagan.So untill the recession hit he was able to get some Democratic support.Obama Is higher
than Clinton In part the Republicans are weaker than In 1993 and they can't go around saying majority of Americans didn't vote for
him.He Is slightly higher than Junior was.Remember prior to 911 he was going down at higher number.

Bottom Line Obama has his voters Intact and a small number of non voters with him according to 4 different polls.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:52 AM
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20. It is a bad number IF HE WERE RUNNING AGAINST HIS OLD NUMBERS

The real comparison is between his number and anyone else and the Republicans have dropped much lower.


In addition its not a national number but state by state.


No state that Obama took is now going red and there are a few that are going the other way.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 10:56 AM
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21. It's because he began his transition at 83%.
Never mind that you're basically just choosing people to serve with you in the first three months, falling from 83% to 56% is a HUGH drop in the minds of the media!

I'm totally series.
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