Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I don't get birther buzz

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
garthranzz Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:29 PM
Original message
I don't get birther buzz
I saw part of the Orly (Oily) breakdown, and this obsession with Obama's birth certificate. But according to Lexis-Nexis, he doesn't need one to be a U.S. citizen. Here's the excerpt:

What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November
13, 1986?
Again, children born abroad to two US citizen parents were US citizens at birth, as long as
one of the parents resided in the US at some point before the birth of the child.
When one parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national, the US citizen parent
must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child, with five
of the years after the age of 14. An exception for people serving in the military was
created by considering time spent outside the US on military duty as time spent in the US.
While there were initially rules regarding what the child must do to retain citizenship,
amendments since 1952 have eliminated these requirements.
Children born out of wedlock to a US citizen mother were US citizens if the mother was
resident in the US for a period of one year prior to the birth of the child. Children born out
of wedlock to a US citizen father acquired US citizenship only if legitimated before turning
21.

--
Two simple questions: How old was Obama's mother when Obama was born? How many of those years did she live in the U.S.?

So it seems the simplest answer to the birthers rant about a birth certificate: HE DOESN'T NEED ONE!

But then, we're arguing with lunatics.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 02:22 PM
Response to Original message
1. Thanks.
I wondered about the one-citizen parent case. You answered it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:25 PM
Response to Original message
2. She was 18...
Edited on Fri Aug-07-09 06:28 PM by jberryhill
Now read it again:

"the US citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child, with five of the years after the age of 14."

Hence, she could not have satisfied the five years after 14 years old condition.

This was the "send your pregnant daughter to a foreign convent" clause.

The thing is, and what the foreign-birth flavor birthers don't explain is how did she smuggle a foreign born baby BACK into the US. Even in 1961, you couldn't just wander through customs with a minor who was not on your passport (back when minor children would usually be included on a parent's passport).

Now, you could argue that she "resided" in Hawaii, despite taking a trip abroad. After all, just because you travel does not mean you lose your residence. But you seem to be reading a FAQ of some kind and not the State Department's exhaustive 7 FAM 1130, which is based on the statutory language of "present in the US" and not "residing"

Enjoy: www.state.gov/documents/organization/86757.pdf



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 11:41 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC