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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:11 PM
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Secret Service looking into Obama-Joker fax
Secret Service looking into Obama-Joker fax
By Eric Messinger
Posted: 08/07/09 05:03 PM


The Secret Service may investigate a fax sent to a Democratic lawmaker that depicts President Barack Obama as the Joker and warns of “death to all Marxists.”

The black-and-white fax portrays Obama in makeup similar to that worn by actor Heath Ledger in his portrayal of the Joker in last summer’s “The Dark Knight.”

On Obama’s forehead is a communist hammer-and-sickle insignia, and beneath the image is the text: “Death to All Marxists! Foreign and Domestic!”

Rep. Brian Baird (D-Wash.) received the fax and passed it along to U.S. Capitol Police.

The Secret Service investigates threats made against the president. Ed Donovan, of Secret Service Public Affairs, said that the fax was “potentially an investigative intelligence matter.”

The fax’s image was the same featured in another recent Obama-as-Joker poster that received attention in the press earlier this week. The first image read only: “Socialism.”

The message made no specific reference to Baird and it is unclear why it was sent to his office. No other congressional office reported receiving a similar fax.

Baird has compared protesters who have shown up at lawmaker town halls during the recess to the Nazis.

“What we're seeing right now is close to Brown Shirt tactics,” Baird said in an interview with the Vancouver, Wash., Columbian on Thursday. “I mean that very seriously.”

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http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/secret-service-looking-into-obama-joker-fax-2009-08-07.html
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:15 PM
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1. “What we're seeing right now is close to Brown Shirt tactics,” Baird said
Ye-ah!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:18 PM
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2. The SS will find the person who sent that fax. He/she will find out
rather quickly why you don't threaten to kill the POTUS!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:22 PM
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3. Thank you, Rep Baird for passing
it along to the proper channel and please take care of yourself, too!

I imagine the Secret Service on busy 24/7 with the threats to the President.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:24 PM
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4. It's not "close to" brownshirt tactics. It IS brownshirt tactics. The SA
is alive and well.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:28 PM
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6. Exactly! We need to use the term "Brown Shirts", not "teabaggers".
Then watch when some of these people actually start wearing brown shirts because they either (a) don't have a clue, or (b) get a thrill out of being regarded as proto-Nazis.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:34 PM
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8. They are exactly the same as the old Sturmabteilung under Hitler.
Fortunately, they do not have the backing of the White House.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:28 PM
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5. Marxism is the antithesis of fascism.
That's why these right-wingers are so single-mindedly anti-communist and anti-Marxist. I wish more progressives would be open to the world-view of Marx.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:32 PM
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7. What we're seeing right now is Mom's Basement Brigade on Steroids.
Remember the "scary" guy who sent the fake anthrax to Olbermann and Stewart and others?

He was a loser in his mid-thirties who lived with his mother.

He, of course, was a member of that nutso conservative political discussion board.

The reason these guys can't be Brown Shirts? They're not FIT. You can't intimidate in a uniform if you are obese. Instead of looking like ROBOCOP, they look more like MALL COP. They're tools who hide behind computers and faxes. They should be outed and ridiculed at every opportunity.

I hope the Secret Service prosecutes the living Bejesus out of this guy. Hard time. In jail. With all those really "scary" guys. Give the little fucker a taste of what the consequences of criminality are.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:37 PM
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10. So we should call them the Paul Blart Brigade?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:39 AM
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20. The cream of their crop!
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:36 PM
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9. If the Joker was the President this would be a very odd country indeed.
Well, odder than it is now.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:41 PM
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11. As infuriating as we may find that "Joker" depiction of Obama, we should let that alone pass.
"We" did very similar things with Bush in the past (although with FAR more justification!). But death threats, explicit or "merely" implied ? Go after them, SS, and with all the resources at your command. Reportedly there are 30 such cases a day, that sounds like a DELIBERATE attempt to swamp the SS, thereby crippling them; something like a DOS attack on the internet. There has GOT to be a Karl Rove type orchestrating that, and the SS should be able to track that person down soon enough.

pnorman
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:47 PM
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12. I never did anything with that idiot bush..he did it all.
And, I will not have my President scared up like a freakin' "joker".
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:14 PM
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14. Most if not all here on DU, really dug that Alfred E. Neuman depiction of Bush (myself included),
as well as some even "scarier". I recall NOBODY calling them out as "in poor taste". I stand by my previous posting, and really hope that the SS NAILS the "Mister Big" behind those death threats.

pnorman
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:17 PM
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15. Yeah, I'm not trying change your mind..
just letting you know I don't agree.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:34 PM
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17. Disagree if you will, but DON'T automatically assume
that I'm NOT as infuriated by that "Joker" depiction of Obama as you are! But as a (passive) member of the ACLU for quite some time and an active supporter of its agenda, I'll support Free Speech, as unrestrictedly as possible. I may not like it, but that has NO bearing on this discussion.

pnorman
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:40 PM
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18. That's the way I got it..
Read ya loud and clear.:)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:56 PM
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19. Maybe that's because he looks like AEN? Not the same at all. nt
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:09 PM
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13. the secret service is investigating
i guess they don't agree with you. i hope they have the necessary resources to investigate every threat, no matter if it is "implied." i don't think this one was implied though.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:19 PM
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16. Please re-read my posting C*A*R*E*F*U*L*L*Y.
n/t

pnorman
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 04:18 AM
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21. These people can't get any dumber. A fax machine?
The SS probably already found them. A fax machine is so easily traced and no matter where you go you'd be taped and if you did it at home then they'd know your addy. Ugh, at least they could be smart about their stupidity.
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Tulio Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:53 AM
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22. Classic! Mind Wobbling Stupid. (nt)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 09:51 PM
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23. They're too brainwashed to be
smart as evidenced by their drugged out leader.
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