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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:22 AM
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Thursday, August 13, 2009
Inside the Beltway

Jennifer Harper INSIDE THE BELTWAY (Contact)

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NBC, MSNBC and CNN have showcased a controversial image of President Obama depicted as Hitler during recent news coverage of contentious town-hall meetings and health care reform.

"They run dialogue and video over this poster and clearly imply that either Rush Limbaugh or 'conservatives' in general are behind the image, which they use as a symbol of extremism. But look closely, and you discover the real credit. It goes to the Lyndon LaRouche political action committee. You can see it. It's right there," Seton Motley tells Inside the Beltway.

The Media Research Center communications director and blogger calls the coverage "pathetic journalism" that fails to inform the public about the origins of the image or important health care legislation.

"Are these major news organizations willfully ignorant? They make a slap at the right when this Obama-as-Hitler poster is clearly coming from the left. It's absurd, and it's dangerous. The public is not getting the real story," Mr. Motley says.

The LaRouche folks deny nothing.

"The image of Obama with a toothbrush mustache was initiated by LaRouche PAC organizers. The captions vary: 'Is This Your President?' was one; a recent one was 'I've changed.' " spokeswoman Nancy Spannaus tells Beltway.

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http://www.washtimes.com/news/2009/aug/13/inside-the-beltway-31140897/print/
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 03:49 AM
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1. The use of the term 'I've changed" with that picture especially irritated me.
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 04:18 AM by RandomThoughts
First off it tries to take the word change and make it bad. It is an attempt to take a word that many do not fear and add fear to it by associating the power from the memory of a very evil thing.

The intent of that sign is to malign and infuse negative thought onto the word change, to take it away from being used to make things better.

Logically change is a good thing, yet they want people to associate it with a bad thing, then throw in the picture of President Obama so when people hear the word change it will invoke the hate of the association from that thoughts of 1930 Germany.

But it is also in a song I like, that I see as coming form the allied not axis. From innocence and strength, and personally just for me, I will not let them malign a positive comment like the word change. One of my favorite songs with it in it.

Give Me Strength by Over the Rhine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVbl0CulcZg
















If you listened to the song, did you think of the bad thing when you heard change in that song? That is how that technique is being used. Its like creating a conditioned pavlovian response from a trigger, that is just one example an attempt to be able to invoke hate from the word change and stop thinking when people speak about things like health care reform.

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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:41 AM
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2. "Change" has been used many times, I don't even know if it has a meaning in politics
Edited on Thu Aug-13-09 04:45 AM by jakeXT
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:10 AM
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4. I understand it has been used many times.
But by using one of President Obama's own slogans and then attaching it to something bad, they can get a mental block in followers when they hear the word spoken from that side.

If you were a freeper, and you saw that sign a bunch of times, and did not like liberals, every time you heard the word change you would think of that sign, and the emotions attached to it. Instead of hearing what is being said.

It is partly how people think. They hear little triggers that make them think of other things, many times people only even hear a small part of a conversation because they drift off and think of other things that get fired off by trigger associations.

Go up to a right winger, talk normally about a program and drop the word socialism, he will forget the words before and after socialism and only feel the emotion Rush and others have imbued into that word.

That sign does the same thing to the change slogan.


Here is an example, imagine President Bush talking about something in Iraq last year. If he said the following.



"in the move to bring people to someplace the mission was accomplished and we are moving to ...."



Most people drop out of the sentence with the attachment to the phrase mission accomplished with a thought of the feeling and image attached to it.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 05:00 AM
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3. LaRouche is a nut.
He has basically been in every type of political movement over the years and keeps trying to morph himself into something reasonable. I cannot even figure out what he is after reading a bio about him.

Also, the crazy RWers are using the Nazi terminology but the mainstream RWers are desperately looking for a way to make themselves not look bad and will use this as an excuse. Both LaRouche and the crazy RWers show that extremism is bad for this country in any form.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:19 AM
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5. This is the first sign that the Right's current strategy is backfiring badly
They're running away from some of the key images of their supporters, through the device of the Washington Times, of course.

The funnier part is to depict LaRouche as "the left."

:rofl:
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:52 AM
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6. oh boy, NBC waking up?
*** LaRouchies, Glenn Beck disciples, and Democrats -- oh my: But there was no indication that these folks were so-called “Astroturf” grassroots supporters. There were many who were affiliated with the tea parties and even LaRouchies likening Obama to Hitler. One LaRouche organizer said he was there to "cause some trouble." There also were some Obama supporters, who came, they said, because of being frustrated at what they'd seen on TV and were encouraged to come out by either MoveOn or Organizing for America. For many of the frustrated, there was real desperation in their voices -- the belief, almost to the brink of tears, that the country is going to the pits. They are the true believers. They were also big-time Fox News viewers and Glenn Beck disciples, hammering home the perception that this is where these people get their news, er, information. One mother-daughter combo -- unprompted -- enthusiastically boasted, "Fox rules!" "It's all we ever watch!"


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/08/13/2030022.aspx
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 09:24 AM
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7. Lyndon LaRouche is as about RIGHT WING as he gets - anc BAT SHIT CRAZY to boot...
these idiots don't know what the fuck their spewing...
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