"Move On never ran an ad comparing Bush to Hitler"

Go Rachel! Right out of the gate!

unless you got links.

if I am remembering correctly

and the right flipped out about it, and move-on rejected the submission.

Because here's the catch: That Chronicle editorial I mentioned above wasn't in response to Limbaugh's latest misguided hate maneuver. The scathing editorial was published on January 7, 2004, and came in response to news that two videos submitted to a MoveOn.org advertisement contest had included Hitler imagery in their 30-second attacks on President Bush. (They were just two of the 1,500 clips submitted.) MoveOn never endorsed the efforts or promoted them; the clips simply appeared on MoveOn's crowded contest website. But when news spread about their mere existence, a controversy erupted, and the liberal netroots group quickly pulled the ads, apologized for their inclusion, and denounced the use of Nazi imagery.

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200908110005

And I stand corrected.

It's been so long I had forgotten the details.

;)

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/10/01/nazi_insult/

pnorman

it's whether move on did it, and therefore Dick Armey is a liar. But if you want to defend Dick Armey, go ahead.

with Obama and Hitler.

and military members, torture of POW, the selection of our president by the supreme court that ordered a STOP to vote counting, a war started on a lie (WMD?), signing statements declaring the executive would not follow the law, secret meetings between corporate CEOs, uber wealthy religious leaders and the executive, funneling billions into the coffer of uber wealthy contractors that have direct ties to government officials.

And the right is doing it in response to trying to get health care to those without, to imagined death panels, to an imaginary idea of a president's birth location.

There is a huge variance in the cause for resorting to such tactics. There is a reality caused bases and an imaginary caused basis. Why doesn't corporate media mention this huge disparity?

expanded the war in Afghanistan, has continued bombing villages in Pakistan that have killed hundreds of civilians, has issued signing statements, had a secret meeting with big pharma to supposedly get a deal concerning healthcare 'reform', and has given billions to the banks and corporations that have gotten us into this financial mess.


I, for one, will be consistent. Comparing Bush to Hitler is wrong, and comparing Obama to Hitler is wrong.

The fact that Dick Armey is able to spout a bunch of bullshit and lies about health care and since no one there has the materials to look up what he said on the spot, all those who support him/or are easily persuaded moderates will think that he's right and most likely not look up what he said themselves. The fact that you can tell bald-faced lies and look like you've won is a horrible. Luckily there are a lot of skeptical people out there who look things up themselves.

ran it? I don't remember who ran it, but I definitely saw it.

They were submitted by entrants in a contest, but the ads were not on TV (except in the news, I guess) and were not created or funded or supported even by moveon.

www.nyt.com

THE 2004 CAMPAIGN: ADVERTISING; Bush-Hitler Ads Draw Criticism
By MICHAEL JANOFSKY
Published: Tuesday, January 6, 2004


It sounded like a fun way to expand participation in this year's presidential election, at least for those opposed to re-electing President Bush. The left-leaning Internet group MoveOn.org sponsored a contest, ''Bush in 30 Seconds,'' inviting people to submit television advertisements about Mr. Bush, with the best to be determined by a vote of visitors to the site.

But two of more than 1,500 submissions have outraged Republicans and leading Jewish groups for comparing Mr. Bush, in profile and policy, to Hitler.

''This is the worst and most vile form of political hate speech,'' Ed Gillespie, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said in one of several statements he issued. He urged the nine Democrats running for president to repudiate the advertisements.

Wes Boyd, a MoveOn.org founder, fired back, saying Republicans were ''deliberately and maliciously'' misleading the public by asserting that MoveOn.org had sponsored the advertisements. ''None of these was our ad,'' Mr. Boyd said in a statement. ''Nor did their appearance constitute endorsement or sponsorship by MoveOn.org Voter Fund.''

On Monday, MoveOn.org said more than 100,000 visitors to the site had selected 15 finalists, none of them the Hitler advertisements. A panel of celebrities and political experts has been asked to pick a winner, which will be televised.

Mr. Boyd conceded that the advertisements were ''in poor taste,'' and said he ''deeply regretted'' that they had ''slipped through.''

Mr. Gillespie and Jewish groups like the Anti-Defamation League and the Simon Wiesenthal Center criticized MoveOn.org for posting advertisements that showed Hitler morphing into Mr. Bush. One asserted, ''What were war crimes in 1945 is foreign policy in 2003.''

''Their lack of discretion cheapens the level of political discourse in America.'' said Abraham H. Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League.

“Regardless of the political differences and the substantive differences in the debate over health care, the use of Nazi symbolism is outrageous, offensive and inappropriate,” said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director and a Holocaust survivor. “Americans should be able to disagree on the issues without coloring it with Nazi imagery and comparisons to Hitler. This is not where the debate should be at all.”

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/HolNa_52/5579_52.htm

You might try google before posting next time.

on every news show and , I think, on the floor of the Houseeven, every time a Dem appeared they were forced to condemn Move-On. I was so pissed that the Dems had to cave in and say how bad Move=On was. The pukes never condemn their base for anything no matter what. If they do they use waffle words.

Though she did make the point that MoveOn.org never ran despicable ads, but she didn't make it aggressively enough. She allowed Dick Slimey and Tom Shitburn yell above her. The Democrats are too fucking polite.