Any reason at all to vote for this guy in 2012?

the guy from No Country for Old Men?

Lock him in a room with Kim Jong Il... I like our chances.

I am surprised that so many who supported Obama now want to abandon him. The Republicans are confident that if they can split the Democrats on this issue and defeat any real reform of health care that they will have totally discredited President Obama and they will be back in power in 2010 and in the White House in 2012.

Single payer is not a viable option at this time and Obama has NEVER support it. Just realize that there are millions of people who now have insurance and are satisfied with their plan. Now I will be the first to agree that many of these people are totally unaware of just how inadequate their plan may be when the are faced with a major illness. I say great let them have their crappy health care and spiraling premiums

If you are so short sighted that you would abandon Obama then get ready for a real screwing when you assist the Republicans return to power. Get real and come to your senses and realize that you are playing directly into the hands of the Rovian Republicans.

This is the time to close ranks and support our president and if the reform fails then get ready to blame the Republicans for sabotaging the plan. Defeat could rally all those those millions who the GOP wants to deny health care. Come 2010 engineer the demonization of any politician who was responsible for its defeat including the Blue Dogs and pave the way for a national health care plan.

Feinstein? Jeb?!

:cry:

A festival of speculative woe.

with this SHIT!

:puke:

Perhaps you could make it stick a little longer next time.

He has supermajorities in congress and can't get a public option, but he's still PEACHY. This is the change I voted for.

The vernacular is intriguing. Seriesly.

You're therefore well fucking safe, legally speaking.

:spray:

It was SUPPOSED to come in the mail with our stimulus checks! Remember that???

Did you think these fucking useless shits would quit just because he won?

:rofl:

Nothing but shit all the time.

And apparently we have to treat them with kid gloves. Can't upset the "progressives" you know. Heaven forbid.

for some reason.

:shrug:

Guess I'm grateful we have President Obama instead of McCain/Palin. Guess after being around for more decades than I care to mention, I am pleased with what Obama has done since he got into office because I have never seen any other president work this hard. Guess I'm not spoiled. Guess I can wait to see what happens and hope for the best.

and I believe most DUers are as well.

next time, or any democrat if they don't get exactly what they want.

"dozens" are an overwhelming minority...;-)

This is the way I look at it. I think by and large, he's doing the best he can with little support. The Democrats in Congress have a tendency to roll over and die when he needs them the most. He's only one man and he can't work miracles.

just like one.

has only been in office for 5.5 months! Bush had 8 freakin years to fuck it all to hell.

Remember when all bush needed was a magic wand?? He said that over and over for every damn problem. Obama has never talked shit like that to us.

Remember Katrina? WMD's etc. There is so much that the bush bastards did that I can't even begin to list it.

All we are saying.. is give the man a chance....

Peace friend.

where the fuck are the mods?

happy.

Hang in there, my friend. It'll be a weird, and hideous season.

There could actually be some laughs, but I doubt it.

The PUMA board spammers and other losers have wrecked this board.

It happens every election. It usually becomes unbearable about two weeks after the election is over. I'm just keeping up with the news via other means.

Sucks, doesn't it?

Julie

Sometime after November in 2012.

He's done a whole hell of a lot more for people than any Republican would do.

And he will continue to be for the people. I'm not a one issue voter and in my opinion, the public option is NOT a dead issue.

So if you think voting for Nader or the Republican cadidate in 2012 will make you better off, then by all means do so.

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...or this guy




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...or even this "guy"




If they are not good enough reasons you deserve one of them. If you can't tell the difference, you don't deserve the vote.

and any one of them would accomplish that goal.

That's why it's called "lesser of two evils" and everybody has to judge what is the lesser for them.

Otherwise, the lesser of two evils will be anybody but him.

:wtf:

Why are you looking down here? Didn't you see the /nt up there?

If I bust my ass to accomplish a bunch of long term goals in the next year, I'll be voting absentee from Canada in 2012 -- voting for the last time as a U.S. citizen. Even if we get a public option or single payer, for that matter, this country is so full of fuckheads that I have no intention of spending one more minute here than absolutely necessary.

You jumped ship quick! Hey, do what you like.

any person with a shred of intellect should know that OBama > Palin every day of the week. NO EXCEPTIONS. If your can think of a "but" at this point, your not paying attention.

But 7 months isn't 8 years.

n/t

We always vote for the lesser of the two evils.

we can see how right Nader was, "not a dime's worth of difference"... :eyes:

There's sure been a lot of stupid on DU lately. :wtf: Is it something in the water? Maybe a full moon, or TV poisoning.

but I suspect you already know this...so I won't list them.

I'm not a one issue voter and you better believe that when I tally all of the things which are important to me up, there isn't a chance in hell I'm going to vote for a Republican or a 3rd party or stay home...

Some things will never change.

And he seems willing to let the Bush tax cuts expire, which the Republicans would have extended and probably beefed up.

I assume you mean "President Obama". And yes, there is PLENTY of reason to vote for him in 2012. There have been may posts over the last 7 months regarding his accomplishments, an I really don't have time to list them all now, but will say he has had many.

for all the attitude in the OP...

:rofl:

I sometimes read some of the posts here in absolute astonishment that these are people at a Democratic site.

To piss of ignorant, racist, teabagging trolls.

be on all our lists of reasons.

President Obama:patriot::fistbump:

:sarcasm:

That's what these whining imbeciles would have you believe today.

with another moderate Poppy Bush appointee, and Stevens & Ginsburg are the next two likely retirees (or deaths)then his appointments to the court really won't change anything. Unless we find a way to get rid of Scalia or Thomas (hopefully Clarence would retire if Fat Tony was gone) we're stuck with a right wing Supreme Court even if Obama gets 8 years.

See where that gets you.

a sitting president, one who remains significantly popular.

Also you'll need a candidate.

The Republicans are decimated, if Obama thinks he can just take everyone's vote for granted who voted for him the first time, he's sorely mistaken.

I see a real possibility of a Third Party upset if this shit keeps up...

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troll bait.

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Thanks, mods!

Ron Paul?

spamming the board all weekend with this shit, and you're given a free hand to do so. Moderators?!!!

Then there sure shouldn't be any reason for you to be here.

Why should he switch now?

:rofl:

You're a fanatical Obama hater from way way back. Nothing you say is the least bit credible. And I don't believe for a second that you voted for Obama.

Let me guess, Nader voter?

any political party remaining in the political wilderness in perpetuity. If there's no organized group of voters to the left of you, you are at the political fringe. You may think it's the correct and only direction for America, but unless you guide a majority of the electorate to where you're thinking, you'll never achieve your ideological goals.

just here to crap all over everybody?

You've got seniority, and I've seen how that plays in arguments. That's one of the reasons I lurked instead of posting. But are you sure you're at the right site?

or you can see if the GOP has anyone at least of the Nixon levels of trust and when that fails to happen you can get over your self and realize this is the real world.

Please check this on Crooks and Liars http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/say-what-sebelius-touts-public-option ">Say What? Sebelius Touts Public Option on 'This Week', Throws It Under the Bus on CNN.

Here is a quote:

In the meantime, a White House staffer sent this statement to health care activists late this afternoon:

Nothing has changed. POTUS has always said that what is essential is that health insurance reform must lower costs, ensure that there are affordable options for all Americans and increase choice and competition. He believes the public option is the best way to achieve those goals