Crooks & Liars: White House reiterates its support of the Public Option

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/say-what-sebelius-touts-public-option

Oh, the Republicans have been having a field day with this mantra - that employers would shunt their employees into the public plan. But they're really upset for the same reason Sebelius mentioned as a positive: Job lock. Above all else, the Republican party stands for cheap, disposable labor with no rights or protections. God forbid you should have a public option - you could up and leave your job anytime you wanted!

In the meantime, the White House released this statement late this afternoon:



Everybody....... caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalm dooooooooooooown.

Take deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep breeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaths.


Please.

to decline to re-elect Obama or to donate to Democratic candidates. But thanks for the info. Some of us really ARE Dems here.

Cross posted from LBN..

cravermi (19 posts) Sun Aug-16-09 02:21 PM
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"President Still Favors Public Option as a Means of Creating Competition and Choice, says Gibbs"
Source: CBS News/Face the Nation

(CBS)White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said on Face the Nation Sunday that President Obama is still in favor a government-sponsored health insurance plan -- but does not intend to replicate the beleaguered U.S. Postal Service.

The federal government would be able to successfully administer a health insurance option, Gibbs told CBS Anchor Harry Smith, even though the government-run Postal Service is facing serious financial problems.

"I don't think he was saying that what we were going to do is create the postal service for healthcare," Gibbs said. "The president believes this option of a government plan is the best way to provide choice and competition."

Read more.. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/16/ftn/main5245252.shtml?tag=stack


Kathleen Sebelius is saying one thing about the public option. However, Robert Gibbs is saying another.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4017510

Saying "wants" is saying he is willing to dump it...but one consistent thing i hear from them is that they want a solution that drives competition.

The only alternative is a controlled co-op operated nationally (not this regional shit).

you see, the word "must" usually implies INSISTING upon something.


Reading comprehension, people. It's your friend.

a negative nosedive into parsing words than believe what the President has said.

I think given the mixed signals his administration has been throwing out on this issue he would be wise to reiterate as often as possible.

because any half-assed bill is only benficial to the HMOs.

Obama has mentioned that the PO is a small segment of reform but it confuses me because the PO option is the hallmark of lowering individual cost and driving competition ... how is that not important since that was the primary selling point to families.

it seems to be working so far. :shrug:

excuse you?

what the f....you know what..

No. I'm not gonna let you bring me there today..


Oh no.


goodbye.

and you appear to be attributing it to them.

They say "Say What? Sebelius Touts Public Option on 'This Week', Throws It Under the Bus on CNN."

you write "Crooks & Liars: White House reiterates its support of the Public Option".

that's PART of the article. I didn't make anything up. The WHITE HOUSE said that. But whatever. You wanna nitpick over some shit like that, be my guest.

not Sebelius' confusing behavior.

Crooks and LIars did indeed quote the white house:

"In the meantime, the White House released this statement late this afternoon:

Nothing has changed. POTUS has always said that what is essential is that health insurance reform must lower costs, ensure that there are affordable options for all Americans and increase choice and competition. He believes the public option is the best way to achieve those goals."

"fool people"...the fuck outta here with that bullshit... :eyes:

People are so easily mollified, it's ridiculous.


You can believe it's the best way to achieve those goals and still accept something less.

Over and over again people get spun the exact same way.

Title at C&L.

But thanks for the video.

Cross posted from LBN..

cravermi (19 posts) Sun Aug-16-09 02:21 PM
Original message

"President Still Favors Public Option as a Means of Creating Competition and Choice, says Gibbs"
Source: CBS News/Face the Nation

(CBS)White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said on Face the Nation Sunday that President Obama is still in favor a government-sponsored health insurance plan -- but does not intend to replicate the beleaguered U.S. Postal Service.

The federal government would be able to successfully administer a health insurance option, Gibbs told CBS Anchor Harry Smith, even though the government-run Postal Service is facing serious financial problems.

"I don't think he was saying that what we were going to do is create the postal service for healthcare," Gibbs said. "The president believes this option of a government plan is the best way to provide choice and competition."

Read more.. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/16/ftn/main5245252.shtml?tag=stack


Kathleen Sebelius is saying one thing about the public option. However, Robert Gibbs is saying another.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4017510

Until I hear that, I'll remain pretty skeptical of how hard a line the White House is really willing to take.

That signals to me he's willing to ditch it if there's "another way."

I am supposed to be happy about this?

The OP's headline is unclear, at best.

:shrug:

:dem:

-Laelth

I swear to god... :rofl:

It is Bizarro World in here to-day.

If he said, I will not sign a bill without a strong public option, that I would call "support."

I do not believe that this response, "Well, I think it's the best way, but I am open to other options," constitutes "support." To me, that sounds like the classic political line, "I'll see what I can do," which always means "no" without the politician having to actually say "no." I think a better headline would have been, "White House still open to alternatives to the public option." That, I think, is a more honest reflection of what was said.

Only time will tell which of us is reading the situation correctly.

:dem:

-Laelth

In the AP and Politico they trust.

:eyes:

Couldn't find it at the White House website!

The article claims:

"In the meantime, the White House released this statement late this afternoon:

Nothing has changed. POTUS has always said that what is essential is that health insurance reform must lower costs, ensure that there are affordable options for all Americans and increase choice and competition. He believes the public option is the best way to achieve those goals."

I went to the White House website. I carefully searched items in the White House Briefing Room including press briefings, statements and releases, speeches and remarks and could not find this alleged White House statement on a public option.

Just post a direct link to the White House statement.

The Crooks and Liars article failed to provide a link.

Thanks.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/

who'd rather shit all over the President rather than back him when he needs their support most.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/obama-demands-the-bill-i-sign-must-include-public-option.php

Obama: "THE BILL I SIGN MUST INCLUDE A PUBLIC OPTION. HELLO? CAN ANYONE FUCKING HEAR ME? IS THIS THING EVEN ON? ...I AM LRRR OF THE PLANET OMICRON PERSEI 8!"