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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 07:47 PM
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Why James Carville needs to be put out to pasture as a Democratic strategist

Carville: Dems should force GOP to filibuster health care reform

WASHINGTON (CNN) – After two weeks of sometimes contentious congressional town hall meetings on health care reform, and amid growing signals from the Obama administration that it may be willing to compromise on a key aspect of health care, Democratic strategist James Carville said Sunday that congressional Democrats should force Republicans to filibuster health care reform in the Senate.

“What about this?,” Carville said Sunday on CNN’s State of the Union, “Suppose they pass a House bill that can get 56 Senate Democrats.” Then, Carville suggested, instead of using reconciliation, a special budgetary maneuver in Senate procedure that frustrate GOP attempts to mount a filibuster, Democrats should call for a vote. “And make (Republicans) filibuster it. But the old kinda way is that they filibuster it and make’em go three weeks and all night and (Democrats) will be there the whole time.

Then, you say, ‘They’re the people that stopped it. We had a majority of Democrats. We had a good bill. They stopped it.’"

The Democratic strategist also rejected any comparison between the Clinton administration’s failed efforts at health care reform in 1994 and the Obama administration’s efforts now.

Democrats “pulled the plug,” Carville said, on health care reform in August of 1994, just months before the mid-term election where Republicans took control of the House. Now, “this is August of the year before the election,” Carville said.

Make’em filibuster it and then run against a do-nothing Congress (in 2010),” the former aide to Bill Clinton and longtime ally of both Clintons told CNN’s John King.

mores

(emphasis added)

James, you're a moron.



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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 07:49 PM
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1. I read that headline in GD and
Edited on Sun Aug-16-09 07:50 PM by Cha
couldn't believe it.

I think the corporatemediawhores are keeping that hasbeen around.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 07:52 PM
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2. You do that sort of stunt on something less important than this.
But then again, maybe Carville is just trying to give Harry Reid a heart attack?

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 08:16 PM
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3. I know. So stupid. What argument - Dems control everything. Plus, it is screwing over the people
without insurance, with preexisting conditions, with caps, etc.

There are a lot of extremely necessary reforms that will be enacted when Obama signs a Bill.

He is going to sign a Bill. He'll get what he can and it will save & help millions - everyone will get new protections.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:25 PM
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6. Exactly -- this is about people's lives.
Unlike the Repukes, this isn't something that's about making sure their cronies get money funneled to them and playing it off as a "national security" thing. This is about something that will seriously impact the lives of many people. It's not something to play politics with. And as I said in another thread, the Repukes would just find a way to spin it to their advantage anyway. There is no way that looking weak when you are the majority helps you. Carville is either a plant or an absolute idiot.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 08:50 PM
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4. Only thing worse that watching him is...
...watching him AND his wife talking shit on the same show, like today on CNN.

:puke:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:03 PM
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5. "Do nothing congress?" WE HAVE THE MAJORITY
Carville. :eyes:
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 04:22 AM
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7. Carville's still stuck in "Dems are a minority Party" mode. We will be again, if we listen to him.
So is CNN. Caught in a time-warp.
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PolNewf Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 04:45 AM
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8. I agree with Carville
Although the goal shouldn't be to let the fillibuster succeed. As it stands the dem options seem to be:
1) Water the bill down to get enough votes to avoid a fillibuster.
2) Put the bill they want up for vote and seriously try to break the fillibuster. Bring out the cots!

#1 is politically easier so that is what I expect they will do. I'm a bit surprised people here wouldn't want to see dems fight for the better bill.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 05:02 AM
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9. and i guarantee you this Pres would disagree with you
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 05:14 AM
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10. Not gonna work this time Carville
what an ass.

as if the policy goals are just not important enough to do this time around. :banghead:
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 05:28 AM
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11. we need a game-changer badly
this could be it.
I wouldn't rule it out when the rain starts.
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sunnybrook Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 05:46 AM
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12. OMFG!
He thinks politics are strictly a campaign! Nothing having to do with actually getting things done! Clueless Carville!
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:28 AM
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13. he should be chained to his kitchen table along with his wife


how many years have they been on CNN? talking crap.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 11:05 AM
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14. Crazy as a fox.
Make 'em filibuster and blame it on the Repubs = no healthcare reform.

Oops, too bad, so sad. But we can keep our jobs another term, wooo hooo!

:puke: <--- what I do when I happen to hear James Scarville.
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