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chomper Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:11 PM
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American Doctor Writes From Germany
As a US citizen, a medical doctor currently living in Germany, a country where health care is universally available for its residents at affordable rates, I might have some perspectives on this debate you haven't yet run across.

What I find most astounding about our US health care system is not only how many people don’t have coverage (some 46 million, and going up). But rather, how fragile and precarious health care coverage is for so many people who think they are well insured.

How does our US health care system compare? Let's go through some important points in the universal health care system in Germany, which I'm very familiar with:

Here in Germany you are mandated to have standard comprehensive health insurance:
your employer pays half the monthly family premium, you pay the other half,
•you don't get rejected because of any previous condition,
•you don't pay more or less working for a large or small business,
•you don’t pay more or less if you are male or female, black or white, German or foreign born, gay or straight,
•the rates don't go up if someone in the small (or large) business gets sick,
•health insurance is not a consideration when changing jobs or careers because you take the policy with you,
•you don’t lose your policy if you get sick, if you become unemployed, or even if your employer goes out of business,
•you won’t be billed for “out of network” services in hospitals or elsewhere - these services are part of your coverage, no matter which hospital or team of doctors treats you,
•you don’t have annual, lifetime, disease-related, or disease-recurrence caps,
•you won’t be billed at 20%, 30% or more for expensive medications (“price-tiered” pharmaceuticals), because there is no "tiering", legally approved pharmaceuticals are fully covered when you need them, even if they're very expensive,
•nor will you ever go bankrupt due to unpaid and unaffordable medical bills piling up, - that simply doesn't happen – you enjoy completely comprehensive coverage.
•Also, forget expensive copays ($40/year max. for doctor visits @$10 per quarter, a few dollars per prescription, a minimal meals expense during a hospital stay.
•Forget too the denials, the constant slog of endless 0800 calls (yours and your doctor’s) to your insurance company for requests for coverage or adjustments, wasting huge amounts of people's time, energy, and productive capacity every business day - this doesn't happen in Germany, because this is a comprehensive coverage system (which is an important reason why it's so efficient).

I might add that Germany is a democratic country with a freely elected government; its residents are free people – this is not "Russia". In fact, this is the country with long stretches of Autobahn without speed limits, right? (Here, it’s your responsibility to drive safely, and most do.) People here freely change jobs, careers, and locations without any regard for health insurance, and they are free of the fear of going bankrupt or losing their homes or life’s savings if they were to get seriously ill, because their comprehensive insurance protects them from that!

Germany and its residents are not going broke paying for this, either. On the contrary, this fair, efficiently run health care system costs roughly a third less per person that the US system - that's right, about 1/3 less per capita – despite (or because?) everyone being on board and receiving comprehensive health care.

That figure doesn’t come from rationing, long waits to see a doctor, or long waiting lists to get an operation, either - that doesn’t happen here. What that figure does reflect, however, is just how much waste, duplication, and gouging of consumers must be taking place in the US health care system every day.

My point in describing the German health care system is not to encourage you all to move to Germany, but to prove to you, that for one-third less money than you currently already spend, you should be getting comprehensive, universal health care, like every resident of Germany does (yes, including all immigrants!). But you're not.

May I humbly suggest: advocate, and work with your friends and neighbors for health care reform now, absolutely including a strong public plan, which is the lynchpin for any meaningful reform.

Don't let the lobbyists, their surrogates on TV, or their gun-toting mobs and pre-organized advocates at town hall meetings, scare you, confuse you, or drown out your voices yet again.

It is time to face up to this national challenge as adults, and finally join the peoples of the 17 (seventeen!) other advanced democracies (not "Russia", but, yes indeed, Germany, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Norway, Australia, Japan, S. Korea and even Taiwan!) around the world, who already enjoy the benefits of universal, comprehensive, and affordable health care.

We absolutely can grab this bull by the horns, and get this job done this year!!!

Dr. med. Frederick B. Lacey Jr.
Frankfurt am Main, Germany

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:17 PM
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1. I Tried Getting my Dual Citizenship... I did not meet the requirements.
I hope someday to move there, and retire. What a beautiful country... a country that treats its citizens like human beings and not animals.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:26 PM
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2. REC
Thanks for posting. This is really persuasive!
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 08:07 PM
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3. when you add up all the money that insurance companies give to
Politicians, advertisement costs, and CEO salaries and bonuses, you could probably cover twice as many people.

Also, why is it that at a time when all businesses would just love to get rid of their health care costs, do they want health care tied to employment?? Why do they want to tie it to employment when some people get too sick to work, and consequently lose their health care??

Why do they yell about single payer when that would spread the cost out over more people and make it more affordable for everyone?? why do the stupid republicans hate this idea just on a principle such as they thinks commies are hiding under our beds just waiting to spring out and convert us all to communism??
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:39 AM
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4. bttt!
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:56 AM
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5. Thank for a glimpse at sanity
When I read this, I just felt even sicker about what is going on here in the U.S.
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 09:12 AM
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6. Just why is this not getting reported more...all we hear about are
Edited on Tue Aug-18-09 09:13 AM by Fla Dem
the "disasters" in public health insurance. This doctor should be found and filmed for a pro public choice commercial.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 10:01 AM
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10. right?
all the media does is spew corporate propaganda about the so called cost and perpetuate the outrageous lies.

I sent this to all the big talking heads at MSNBC, FAUX NewZ, CNN and the Atlanta Journal Constitution along with my own opinion about this.



Excellent find OP, thanks and welcome to D.U. :)
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:17 PM
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7. thank you and welcome to the site!
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:03 AM
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8. ttt
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:40 AM
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9. "Absolutely including a strong public plan, which is the lynchpin for any meaningful reform."
Edited on Wed Aug-19-09 09:43 AM by Mass
Important line, that may missed by some people.

The other thing is that the private system is a lot more regulated by the government than the current reform envision, one of the reason why the system works.
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