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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:41 PM
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Insurance lobbyist blasts Dean's 'Medicare option' compromise

Insurance lobbyist blasts Dean's 'Medicare option' compromise

by Jed Lewison

Earlier today, Howard Dean proposed resolving the public option impasse by allowing all Americans -- regardless of age -- to purchase their health insurance from Medicare instead of being legally mandated to purchase insurance in the private sector.

Karen Ignani, the chief lobbyist for the health insurance industry, slammed Dean's proposal because, she says, Medicare "is a government-run program." True, Medicare is a government-run program -- but it's also a a helluva' lot more popular than the private insurers on whose behalf she lobbies.

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The reality is that the only people who stand to lose by creating an optional public plan for health insurance is the health insurance industry itself. What they want is a mandate requiring everybody to buy private health insurance. That's why they are fighting any sort of public option -- they want a monopoly over a system in which people are legally required to buy their product. It's unfortunate that they could get their way.

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DR. NANCY SNYDERMAN: If we took a public option and retooled it somewhat, why not make the case to the American public that we will allow people below the age of 65 to buy into Medicare even if there's some trimming that has to be done out of that budget too?

DR. HOWARD DEAN: That's all I want. If you allowed people to buy into Medicare who are below 65 years old, that's a public option, and that's what we need.

SNYDERMAN: To look at the other side of this argument, Karen Ignani, she's the President and CEO of America's Health Insurance Plans.

SNYDERMAN: Would you be comfortable allowing people to buy into Medicare and let that serve as a public plan?

IGNANI: Well, I think that this is a fair question, and we ought to have a fair debate about it, straight up.

SNYDERMAN: But what's your position?

IGNANI: We'd be concerned about that.

SNYDERMAN: Why?

IGNANI: Because that is a government-run program, it is a single-payer system, and that discussion ought to be held straight up.



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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:43 PM
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1. Good Idea - How much would you be willing to pay for Medicare - 10,000?
Edited on Mon Aug-17-09 08:13 PM by stray cat
If people could buy into medicare at the real prices required to run it and get coverage - it could help stabilize Medicare
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 08:40 PM
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5. Medicare wouldn't cost a fraction of that
because it is perhaps the most efficiently run health care system in the US. Its overhead is around 1%, compared to around 13-15% for insurance companies. Then there is the savings from not having to pay huge CEO salaries and perks. That is hundreds of millions of dollars a year in savings right there.

Plus, if we get rid of that republican ball and chain law from last term that prohibits Medicare from negotiating drug prices, and let medicare use its massive buying power to negotiate discounts there is even more savings for everyone on good and services that go into the cost of the insurance.

You can't just assume that Medicare would cost the same as individual private insurance. That's absurd.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:44 PM
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2. Dean is on KO right now.
Edited on Mon Aug-17-09 07:44 PM by Avalux
He says Pukes aren't going to vote for ANY reform bill no matter what's in it so the whole public option thing is mute.

He says Obama will have a good bill on his desk in December.

What's going on now is "A hangover from the old days".
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:46 PM
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3. I heard him.
Looks like the Dems have another bargaining chip the RW didn't anticipate.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 07:49 PM
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4. I feel better after listening to Dean.
He also said something else we ALL need to remember:

Electing Obama was just the beginning of change. We have a lot of work to do.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 08:50 PM
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6. Oddly enough, I agree with the Insurance whore (no offense to sex workers)
it is a single-payer system, and that discussion ought to be held straight up.

We SHOULD have a "straight up" national discussion on single payer. The thing is, if we did, the insurance whores would NOT like the outcome of that discussion. Which is exactly why we are NOT allowed to have that discussion.

The true public option, as Dr. Dean has told us, gives the people the choice, and gives the insurance whores every opportunity to clean up their act and compete fairly.

Guess what? They don't want to have THAT discussion either. Their idea of "discussion" is WE talk, YOU listen, and you continue to play by OUR rules the rest of your fucking lives.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 08:53 PM
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7. No, it's not odd. n/t
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 06:20 PM
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11. Whore is the right word, in my opinion.
Karen Ignani : President of America's Health Insurance Plans
AHIP was formed through the merger of Health Insurance Association of America (HIAA) and American Association of Health Plans (AAHP). The HIAA ran the heavily criticized "Harry and Louise" advertisements that helped kill Bill Clinton's health care reform efforts in the early 1990s.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 08:59 PM
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8. I would happily buy into Medicare, thanx...
it should be expanded and take in people under 65. Why the fuck do I need insurance vampires permission to take part in Medicare? If the Government wants to offer that to us, GREAT, since when did we need to ask the criminals for permission.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 09:05 PM
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9. Of course they blast that option...
It's their worst nightmare.. .
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NecklyTyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 06:01 PM
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10. Dr. Dean is coming on strong, but he is fighting both the right wing and the media
He is sure making the point for health care reform, but it seems like the media presents his views like he is a lone voice shouting in an empty room. We need more people like Howard Dean spreading our message and not the message of the haters
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 06:47 PM
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12. That's the best, simplest, & perhaps only viable route.
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