Replace Sebelius with Howard Dean & lets get this show on the road!

Or better yet replace Rahm Emanuel with Dean, more than any other 2 these 2 need to go.

It doesn't matter who gets what cabinet position as far as this problem goes... the blue dogs in the Senate are the problem and can't be replaced. Plus it would be monumentally stupid to replace high level appointees right now, with all the other negative controversies going on.

Dean on the other hand has been handing people their ass. She never should have gotten this job and you guys know it.

Sebelius but I'm thinking that it's good that Dean is doing his own thing seperate from the admin.

Covering more flanks as it were.

Dean can speak his mind and give honest assessment of the administration without being bound to talking points. He's honest, articulate, and for me at least, totally credible.

Dean is the best and they're all working together to get this done whether we can see it or not.

she sucks at talking points and taking on right wing bull shit, her answers on the Daily Show were wishy-washy and lame.

Punish her for fucking up the message, even if it was just a "trail balloon." Putting Dean in her place would make a lot of Democrats feel a whole lot better about where this presidency stands on actually fixing things. I hate to point it out but there are plenty of people here who worked for Obama and gave him a lot of their hard earned money that are kind of pissed that they are fucking this up so royally. Was it so hard to say that "I will veto anything without a public option?" Hell no! Plenty of people on the left are pissed at what they see is more give aways to the insurance companies (mandatory insurance, etc), plenty of people are pissed that single payer never got a place at the table. Don't give me that pony shit either, healthcare is make or break and everyone here knows it, Obama promised a public option and if he doesn't do something to show how tough he is on protecting a public option then democrats are going to lose a whole lot of door knockers and fund raisers. The perfect being the enemy of the good isn't always true, forcing people to buy shitty insurance is worse than no bill at all.

Selebius sucks, she should not be there, period.

what the media is going to say.

I think Dean would have been a better choice to lead the debate for a public option...

Even if it isn't her fault, she went "off message" get rid of her and put Dr. Dean. She never should have been there in the first place.

... that it might be her boss who has sent her mixed messages, just as he has also been sending all the rest of us lately?

Let's get real here: President Obama has not been clear and decisive on the 'public option' for about a week now. He needs to step-up to the microphones and state his full support for the 'public option' ... no quibbles or fuzzy language. Not Gibb or Sebilius or Biden or Emanuel -- Pres. Obama needs to clear this up now once and for all.

My hunch is that Sebilius has been saying what the President wants her to say ... sadly.

This other Dem from KS agrees with you!

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If you think they would respond well to Howard Dean getting up in their faces then you are quite ignorant of the political realities that comprise Washington.

if they want the public to get behind their plan they need better people selling it.

Face it SHE FUCKED UP! SHE NEEDS TO GO!

If anyone needs to get their act together, its Harry Reid. I repeat, a handful of conservative Democratic party Senators are the PROBLEM. Not President Obama, not Rahm Emmanuel, not Sebelius.

Fuck Reid get rid of him too. As far as who is suppose to be the face of this she is. She is the Secretary of Health and Human Services, Dean never would have agreed to float that trial balloon.

...how the senate will vote. The Secretary of Health and Human Services does not have the power to change that.

Bush did it and passed shit that no one wanted, for Obama to be weak on this makes us all look bad.

Plus, Republicans are typically lockstep behind Presidents of their party. Democrats are all over the place.

Obama isn't being "weak". To pretend he could do anymore than he is doing within the confines of current political realities is ridiculous.

Not drawing that line makes him weak, you telling us to back off and quit picking on the president makes him look weak.

He needs to stand up dust himself off and lay some fucking ground rules. Putting a kickass like Dean on the cabinet would be a nice start.

There are enough people in Congress all ready taking a strong stand on this. And they can get away with it.

And seriously, people like you who have tried to say Obama isn't being tough enough have been proven wrong time and time and time again. You couldn't even hold Barack Obama's jock.

Oh I beg to differ...... Someone as corrupt as Max Bluecross or Kent Co-op has probably got some skeletons in their closet. Would be such a shame if they had to resign, wouldn't it?

The Republicans would love taking back the majority.

That would be a surprise.

Don't ask stupid, you know what I meant.

And for fucks sake, stop apologizing for the likes of Max Bluecross. He's not doing a damn thing for you. Unless you work for an insurance company. And if that's the case, you have no business being here.

Dean should have been appointed first thing. Since he wasn't, they only have themselves to blame for his kicking ass & taking names as they fiddlefart around with verbage about their position(s).

digs Dean.

Rahm never expected Dean to become the head of the party, he was pissed that their guy went down. Dean went to every state and involved local democrats, Rahm and the DLC like all the power to be in one room.

why Obama didn't offer him the job in the first place. He's immovable on a public option.