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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:25 PM
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To those routinely slamming Obama's efforts and the public option and declaring the bill dead,
you don't get an ounce of credit for helping to pass health care reform.

Here are the House and HELP bills, respectively:

HEALTH REFORM AT A GLANCE:THE HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE

America’s Affordable Health Choices Act will reform the insurance marketplace to ensure that everyone can purchase quality, affordable health insurance coverage. A critical piece is a new Health Insurance Exchange (Exchange) for individuals and businesses to allow them to comparison shop for coverage. This Exchange will revolutionize health care choices and will help reduce the growth in health care spending by encouraging competition on price and quality, not benefit manipulation or efforts to exclude needy patients. Recognizing that many businesses want to continue providing their own health coverage as they do today, business participation in the Exchange is simply a new option for those that are eligible – no business is required to enter.

HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE:
ABILITY TO COMPARISON SHOP


  • Give people the ability to choose from a variety of plans — including a new public health insurance option.

  • Provide standardized benefit packages so that people will be able to comparison shop and make informed choices based on cost and quality.

  • Plans compete locally—so small plans and national plans have an equal opportunity to offer coverage.
AFFORDABILITY (SEE FACT SHEET “MAKING COVERAGE AFFORDABLE” FOR MORE DETAILS)

  • To ensure that health care is affordable to people of all incomes, new affordability credits will be available for people purchasing through the Exchange. They will assist people with incomes up to 400% of the federal poverty level ($43,000 for individuals or $88,000 for families of four) and phase-out on a sliding scale basis.

  • Includes a cap on premiums and out-of-pocket spending. Regardless of income, everyone will be protected, so no one will face bankruptcy due to medical expenses.
TRANSPARENCY

  • Bring transparency to the health care marketplace, so that families know what benefits their plan covers and what it will cost them.

  • Require plans to explain their coverage in plain language, so that consumers can make informed choices about their medical care.
STANDARDIZED BENEFITS (SEE FACT SHEET “BENEFITS” FOR DETAILS)

  • Allow consumers to choose coverage among several standard benefit packages.

  • Provide comprehensive health care services with different levels of cost sharing.

  • Include a Premium Plus plan through which people will have options to purchase coverage for additional health care benefits that are not included in the core benefit standards.
ADVANTAGES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES

  • Health Insurance Exchange is opened to small employers first (those with 10 or fewer employees in the first year, and 20 or fewer in the second year) and to larger employers over time.

  • Offers opportunity to small employers through the Exchange to provide their employees with broad choices for coverage and to be able to eliminate the administrative costs of maintaining their own health plan contracts.


A Strong Public Option

The Community Health Insurance Option

A strong majority of Americans believe that a strong public option is an important component of any health reform bill that keeps costs down, expands coverage, and offers American families a wide variety of affordable options. Backed by the government for the public good, not private profit, the HELP Committee’s public option – called the Community Health Insurance Option – will be a strong, effective national plan that provides Americans with a real alternative to traditional, for-profit insurance.

Summary:

  • HHS-based plan: The Community Health Insurance Option would be run by the Department of Health and Human Services. The government would pay for the first three months of claims as a way to capitalize it; this would be a loan to be repaid over time. For the first two years and longer if necessary, this strong public option would also qualify for “risk corridor protections” which offset or reclaim excessive losses and gains which could result during the start-up period (identical to those in Medicare Part D). Subsequently, its premiums would be set to make it self sufficient. This would make the public health insurance option quickly available in all areas of the country.

  • Plays by the same rules: The public option would be one of the Gateway choices. It would follow the same rules as private plans for defining benefits, protecting consumers, and setting premiums that are fair and based on local costs.

  • Provider payments and participation:

    • Negotiated rates within limits: The payment rates paid by the public option would be no more than the local average private rates – but could be less. The Secretary would negotiate these rates.

    • Input from Advisory Councils: Each State would create a Council of provider and consumers to recommend strategies for quality improvement and affordability. States would share in the savings that result.

    • Purely voluntary: Health care providers would have the choice of participating in the public option; there would be no obligation to do so.

Why It Will Make Health Care Affordable

  • Pooled purchasing power: This public option can pool the purchasing power of its enrollees nationwide to leverage lower prices to compete with private plans. Similar negotiation power has been used by states to get drug rebates in Medicaid beyond the statutory minimum. It has been used by large businesses to drive delivery system change. This negotiation would be backed by a ceiling of paying no more than average local rates.

  • Flexibility and incentives to innovate Unlike administered pricing, the negotiation for payment rates gives the Secretary the ability to quickly and aggressively promote payment policies that promote quality and best practices. In addition, the State Advisory Councils would tailor delivery system reform for the public option, with a financial bonus for success.

  • Lower administrative overhead: The public option would not need to raise premiums to support shareholder profits, extensive marketing, and extra risk reserves required by require to protect enrollees from plan insolvency or mismanagement of funds.


Then again, when a bill passes with measures similar to these in place, I'm sure it will still not be good enough for those who have never supported the bill.




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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:27 PM
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1. Don't Let Facts Get In The Way Of Perfectly Good Hatin'!
n/t
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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:29 PM
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2. Unless, of course . . .
Edited on Tue Aug-18-09 03:29 PM by Prism
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6338533&mesg_id=6338533">We do.

No, but seriously, could someone organize the narrative. I'm getting confused on whether I'm supposed to be ticked at the idea of the public option being dropped, or if I'm supposed to meekly accept the gradual watering down of true reform.

And if you could put all this in a memo and have it ready by five o'clock, I'd be much obliged.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:31 PM
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3. Take Action August
http://www.obama-mamas.com/blog/?p=351

SEIU, Neighbor to Neighbor, Health Care For America Now - lots of ways people can help.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 06:04 PM
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11. YES! And, Thursday is a live Strategy Meeting for Organizing for America Supporters.

Thrill (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-18-09 06:08 PM
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Plouffe-Thursday: Strategy meeting with the President

"President Obama is holding a live strategy meeting on Thursday at 2:30 p.m. Eastern Time for all Organizing for America supporters. I hope you can join us, online or by phone.

The President will update us on the fight to pass real health insurance reform -- what's happening in D.C. and what's happening around the country. He'll lay out our strategy and message going forward and answer questions from supporters like you. And we'll unveil the next actions we'll organize together.

This is a critical time in this President's administration, and in the history of our country. I hope you can join us.

Here are the details:

What: Organizing for America National Health Care Forum

When: Thursday, August 20th, 2:30 p.m. Eastern Time

RSVP and submit a question for the President:

http://my.barackobama.com/forum

The President wrote to us a few weeks ago to ask us to go the extra mile this month in the fight for health insurance reform. And so far, you've stepped up in a big way: Last week, an astounding 60,000 Organizing for America volunteers stopped by representatives' and senators' local offices. You told your health care stories to staffers and members of Congress -- of losing insurance after getting laid off, of being denied coverage upon finding out about a serious illness. And you thanked those supporting real health insurance reform for all the work they've done so far.

But these local office visits were only part of the story. The D.C. media has been trumpeting coverage of town halls disrupted by angry opposition to reform. But the reality on the ground is very different. Organizing for America supporters are showing up in huge numbers at these meetings all across the country -- outnumbering opponents of reform, often by overwhelming margins.

You've organized 11,906 local events in all 50 states -- from press conferences to community discussions -- since we launched our big campaign for reform in June. And you've made hundreds of thousands of calls to Congress.

Your work so far has been incredible. But the special interests and partisan attack groups who oppose reform will not let up, and they will tell whatever lies they can to spread fear. There's a lot more work for all of us to do. This Thursday's meeting is our chance to huddle as a team, get the latest information and talk about how we're going to achieve this victory. You don't want to miss it.

Click here to RSVP and submit a question for President Obama:

http://my.barackobama.com/forum

Hope you can make it,

David Plouffe
"Any time you speak out powerfully for change, the forces of status quo attack." -John Edwards

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8596987
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:31 PM
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4. And I was planning to ratchet up the bitching
I forgot about what, but this will do. ;)
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:31 PM
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5. Why not just do what we already know works? Is that too simple? We have to subsidize private Corps?
Why?

I would be embarrassed to work for a plan that takes American tax dollars and gives one trillion every decade to private insurance companies. That's just plain wrong.

It's bad public policy.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:32 PM
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6. The naysayers
will ignore all these facts just to propagate their hate and idiosyncrasy.

What a shame...

Good job .....:thumbsup:


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 09:54 PM
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28. Exactly. n/t
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:33 PM
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7. The President is pretty amazing in the way he phrases things.. trying to pull
everyone along.. or at least educating them.

The one thing the President has been adamant in , is there will be a public option.

He is not letting the Public Option become the sole focus of the bill so the teabaggers and right wings get all that free press.. there are a lot of parts to the bills in both houses, (that are still being worked out.. (there is no bill on the desk yet, so where all this juice about the public option being lost is coming from,, you got me)
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:11 PM
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22. The man knows what the fuck he's doing. Others just can't keep up
or aren't creative enough to figure out there are different and more creative ways to get a bill passed; we've got a bunch of old farts who are stuck "back in the day" of 80s politics where every move was predictabl trying to tell us what's going on. I don't know if it's more pathetic or hilarious. They're clueless. Welcome to a new world folks. (or maybe it's just "CHANGE")
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 03:42 PM
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8. Declaring it over means that you don't have to actually do anything

Obama always said it was from the bottom up


Here are contacts for Senate Dem Com Chairman that need to know that their chairmanships could be revolked if they don't support single payer.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6334046
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:02 PM
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9. Same goes for distorting it from the start. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 05:51 PM
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10. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:27 PM
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12. A public option should be a real "public option" meaning
everyone should be able to buy into the public option whether they currently have insurance or not and every doctor, hospital and provider must accept it. Without those things, a public option is worthless. A bad public option covered by layers and layers of rules and regulations spelling out who can and can't have it, how long you have to wait to be eligible, etc., etc. will doom it to failure. Opponents will then say what a horrible idea it was in the first place and any talk of "reform" will be dead for another 20 years.
Now is the time to fight for REAL reform. We have to quit worrying about protecting the health insurance companies profits which is what this seems to do.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:12 PM
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23. I agree - this is our chance. nt
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 11:04 AM
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13. K&R.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 03:53 PM
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14. k&R if this was a ship, they would walk the plank.
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 03:55 PM
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15. His efforts have been heroic
His tactics however..... not so much.

I am not hatin'
But I have eyes to see.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:47 PM
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16. .
FAIL

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:54 PM
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17. So, each version allows shopping around.
It's a catalog, not legislation.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:56 PM
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"It's a catalog, not legislation."
Didn't work.

FAIL



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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:01 PM
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19. Type fail as small as you want, it does not "revolutionize" health care choice,
let alone health care itself.

The government is not serving the people if it becomes an insurance brokerage, no matter how pretty the marketing.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:09 PM
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21. Offer cute slogans, doesn't means it make sense.
When 40 plus million uninsured people are covered, Americans no longer have to worry about catastrophic care coverage, losing coverage, pre-exisiting conditions, and more and more people opt into the public option, that is revolutionized health care coverage.

You may not like it, but that's a fact.

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:16 PM
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24. There's nothing in either that guarantees 40,000,000 people will be covered.
It offers an "option" that they may be covered. It's more market based drivel, not a recognition of the necessity of actual health care.

You may like that, and that's also a fact.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:19 PM
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25. Nonsense. n/t
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:20 PM
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26. Well, then. I guess you win.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:04 PM
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20. How much do we love Henry Waxman? Three cheers for him.
I vote for this bill!
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:55 PM
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27. Tell 'em off, Prosense!
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:35 PM
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29. k
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