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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 11:58 PM
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I want to believe...
That Obama knows what he is doing...

That he is continuing to look out for our best interests...

That he has figured out the best solution for the health care mess...

That he has all the good ideas even if we don't know what they might be...

That he will deliver when the time is finally, finally right...

That he has all the key players in his back pocket...

That all the rest will fall into line once they see what he's doing...

I believe.


And I don't know why.

But I do know this:

I trust him.

With my life...



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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:04 AM
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1. Conviction is a greater enemy to Truth than lies - Nietzsche
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:57 AM
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12. Ooooh...Harsh. But wasn't Nietzsche talking about religious zealots? n/t
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:05 AM
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2. me too
I believe he will astonish us all.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:06 AM
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3. I trust him too
And I am not afraid to say so.

:hug:
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:06 AM
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4. Very nice.
I still believe in Obama too.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:07 AM
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5. Thank you...
My hobbies are politics and poetry...

Every now and then, they merge.

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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:09 AM
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6. I hope your faith is rewarded and you get to say; "I told you so," to all of the nay sayers. nt
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:10 AM
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7. I trust him with your life too
:)
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:11 AM
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8. I'll bet my soul on belief, but not my life.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:33 AM
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9. Everyone knows how I feel about this matter of trusting President Obama.
I'm with you!

:pals:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:38 AM
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10. Thank you, my dear NYC_SKP...
:pals:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:50 AM
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11. My only problem with your post is that you state that you don't know WHY


I suspect that you trust him because when he was at the pinnacle of jurisprudence academia and could have waltzed to clerk in the Supreme Court or stacked a few million on Wall Street, he instead signed a book deal that became a fascinating introspective on who he was and what he was all about (and a surprise best seller) and that he was more interested in working with poor people than getting his FU money in hand and then doing the 'liberal' thing.

He then determines that politics will allow him to help the disadvantaged wholesale rather than organizing 'retail' and takes on politicians right away. Gets elected to the Senate but doesn't move his family to DC. Runs for President but seeks a broad based support system rather than hitting up the fatcats. When no one thinks he can make it he could have struck a deal to become VP with Clinton, done a soft 8, waltzed to the Presidency for another 8, but stuck it out for a year to take the harder path.

I trust him simply because he has a record of being trustworthy.


And anyone that stands up to criticize the man I look to see if they did the same thing.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:58 AM
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13. Your points are well taken...
I was mostly being poetic, which might have been a mistake.

He certainly does have a record of being trustworthy...

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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:54 AM
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14. My logical side is with you, my emotional side is feeling cautious, waiting for
the betrayal (experience tells me politicians will betray you/their promises). Though I don't agree with everything he chooses to do or say, I am reality based enough to know that option is essentially impossible, no one would make every choice the way I'd want. Some topics I would feel betrayed about, healthcare is one. I don't know yet if I turn away if we don't have at least a public option, but that possibility exists. I suppose it depends on what we do get.

I am still of the opinion that he is likely still in control of his hand, that we will be pleased with the outcome, and if you check my posts you'll see I've displayed this opinion before. I think he's just giving the Repubs a chance to self-destruct, while honoring the #1 complaint about the presentation of Hillarycare. Logically looking at his life to date, there is logical evidence to support my thoughts, now if I could just get my emotions on board and stop holding my breath, all would be good.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:25 AM
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15. Our heads often recognize what's happening...
The problem lies in getting our hearts to come along too.

Thank you for your comments...

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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:34 AM
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16. k/r
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:35 AM
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17. I'm with you
California Peggy...he knows what's up.

k&r
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:48 AM
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18. My Dear California Peggy!
You speak for me!

:hug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:05 PM
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19. I am honored that I do...
Thank you, sweetie...

:hug:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:08 PM
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20. It's a matter of who to believe.
I could trust Obama...

OR

crazy anonymous loons who think Obama is as bad as Bush and that mini-nukes brought down the WTC.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:13 PM
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21. I think this is the first time I've ever disagreed with you, Peggy
( oh no, our first fight!) but he is first and foremost, a politician,and I do not trust him or any of em . And I further think it is unwise at best, and dangerous at the worst, to have blind faith and/or trust in any leader . It must be earned and then continually re-earned. So far I've seen too much of the same old Democratic spinelessness in dealing with an opposition party loaded with raving lunatic racists, and still thinking it's the world you and I grew up in where the republicans were generally honorable, decent people that you disagreed with, but could deal with as honorable men and women. I see an administration that has pretty much shown nothing but disdain for the progressives that were so crucial to their victory, in favor of going back to the business as usual approach of the DLC and the Wall Street/ Goldman -Sachs gang with their solution to every loss being to move ever closer to being republican-lite...Is he light years better than McCain and Caribou Barbie? Of course...But I have not seen a lot so far that inspires trust; more like every day seems to bring yet another capitulation to the neo-fascists in the name of ,or maybe just guise, of "bi-partisanship" with people who behave in the same ways as schoolyard bullies who see the object of their bullying backing down, and , like bullies everywhere, see that as an invitation for more ,and more intensified, bullying . And I'm reminded of a great quote I saw here (DU) recently ( not exact, perhaps, but close): In WW2, "bi-partisanship" was called collaboration ...I hope as much as anyone, that you're right and I'm wrong, and I'm not pompous enough to think that's not entirely possible...maybe he is a stunningly brilliant leader who is playing his "rope-a-dope" with the repubs to the last possible second before unleashing a left hook on em to where they'll never know what hit em.By the way, I hope you saw Paul Krugman's piece in today's NY Times... A good essay on why so much of the left is feeling betrayed ( as I am ,SO FAR)........With, as I think you know, nothing but the highest regard, and respect for you, abq e streeter
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:27 PM
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22. My dear abq e streeter...
Sorry to be so late responding, but I was out at the gym.

So. Actually, I do agree with you in large part. He is a politician, yes. But I think he is an honorable man too.

I was (mostly) being poetic in my OP. Not entirely, of course. I think your points are well stated...

And I too hope very much that I'm right. Not to see you as wrong, though! I would much rather be an optimist than a cynic.

I appreciate your sharing your very intelligent thoughts with me, and with anyone here who has read them...

And I too hold you in the highest regard and with huge amounts of respect!

:hug:
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:55 PM
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23. I'm with ya, CaliforniaPeggy!
He didn't become the first black President because he was a dumb man. And there is more up his sleeve than just his elbow.

The next few months should be interesting and very telling as to what this wonderful President will do. The economy is beginning a recovery and with any luck health care will be a reality for all Americans.
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:59 PM
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24. This pretty much sums up my feelings on the subject-
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 03:59 PM by masuki bance
UPDATE II: On the general question of "trusting Obama," BTD makes an important point: "I am against the idea of trusting any politician, including Obama, Ted Kennedy, Russ Feingold, Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi and Anthony Weiner. Watch what they do, not what they say." Indeed, as I've written many times, "trust" is appropriate for one's friends, loved ones, family members and the like -- but not for politicians. That's what John Adams meant when he said: "There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty." "All" means "all" and "none" means "none."

But that's not how our political culture works generally. Our politics have become entirely celebretized. Political discussions typically resemble junior high chatter about one's most adored and despised actors: filled with adolescent declarations of whether someone "likes" and "trusts" this politician or "dislikes" that one. "I trust Obama" has long been a common refrain among his most loyal supporters. The fact that, as Krugman says, that is much less true now is quite significant, even if "trust" is an inappropriate emotion in the first place to feel towards any political official.

-- Glenn Greenwald

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/08/21/obama/
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