From DKos - Greenwald Nails It: Rahm Is Protecting the Blue Dogs...

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Greenwald Nails It: Rahm Is Protecting the Blue Dogs...
by Badabing

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Here's the original Greenwald article from Salon that is being commented upon.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

Here's Glenn's crux of the matter. He thinks we'll get a crappy bill because we were always meant to get a crappy bill because the interests of the corporations outweigh the interests of the people regardless of who's in the White House.



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common.

The likes of which included, among many others, Joe Lieberman.

I wonder what the mix is of liberal vs. DLC minded DU'ers?

votes were required in the Senate to even bring the health care bill to the floor.

Lieberman plainly stands with the health care industry to protect their profits.

Who would adopt that ideology who wasn't a player in the game?

Some are just bearing a grudge over past personal electoral defeats... I'm looking at you wyld puppy.

If Rahm fights against a public option then you would have to say President Obama is against a public option. Something he has not said, and with his comments it is safe to say he wants a public option. And if he wants is a public option and it is not in the bill, that would mean he would not think taking on money interest would work, Why?

If Rahm was to go against public option to again try and hurt the many progressives, he would be siding with big money like Republicans do. It is true that there are many centrist picked in the administration, but that does not mean the administration follows the corporate first ideology, we will see when the final bill comes out.

The media is trying to make this a blue dog against progressive political issue.

If you define party by how they support big money, it is a Republican verses most Democrats, with some Democrats siding with Republicans. It is not three factions, that framing is so that the few conservative Democrats look like the middle ground. And so nobody remembers that all of the Republicans are supporting the industry that is not working for American citizens(unless making bonuses is the goal).

The issues are clear, there can be many news stories saying many different things, maybe just to keep people watching TV. But until a bill comes out with or without a public option we wont know one way or another.

People in congress know the problems, it just depends if they want to work towards fixing them.


Did I miss anything there, is it about big business and big money or American citizens.

to me than the OP.

Thanks~Rec'd.

"If Rahm was to go against public option to again try and hurt the many progressives, he would be siding with big money like Republicans do. It is true that there are many centrist picked in the administration, but that does not mean the administration follows the corporate first ideology, we will see when the final bill comes out."

IF...Rahm were siding with big money?

Are you fucking kidding me?

IF?????

You do remember nothing about how Clinton and the DLC came into power? PLAY NICE WITH CORPORATE AMERICA was Rahm's strategy from the very start -- he felt Dems were getting their asses kicked in the fundraising department by the GOP who were feeding at the corporate trough. Dems depended on "special interest" PACS and regular donors to raise funds. Rahm's strategy was to go toe to toe with the GOP for all that corporate cash -- to do that meant he needed to bring on board more "pro-business" Dems who were willing to turn a blind eye to corporate excesses/wrongdoing -- and thus the Blue Dog candidates were cultivated, financed, and elected as "Dems" by RAHM EMMANUEL.

RAHM has hard a HARDON for corporate America for 20 fucking years. :mad:

IF? :wow:

of this administration. it kind of makes one not care when the health care town hall meetings are attacked by right wing loonies. why should anybody want to attend as counter protesters to defend a farce?

I wasn't happy about the idea of a DLC pipeline in Obama's Oval Office. But now I like the idea of Obama being able to keep an eye on them through Rahm.

:headbang:
rocktivity

the amount of cover Rahm could give them is less than the damage they will suffer through ire against Obama and Democrats in general if the plan either fails or is watered down so that it is not successfully implemented. i can't believe Rahm doesn't realize this but he has done notably boneheaded thinking before. :banghead:

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/health-care/rahm-slammed-dems-attacking-other-dems-as-f-king-stupid-sources-say/


Rahm Slammed Dems Attacking Other Dems As “F–king Stupid,” Sources Say
The Politico’s Jonathan Martin reported this morning that Rahm Emanuel warned leaders of liberal groups in a private meeting this week that it was time to stop running ads attacking Blue Dog and “centrist” Dems on health care.

I’m told, however, that Emanuel went quite a bit further than this.

Sources at the meeting tell me that Emanuel really teed off on the Dem-versus-Dem attacks, calling them “f–king stupid.” This was a direct attack on some of the attendees in the room, who are running ads against Dems right now.


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hey Ramn your con game may work in Chicago..but it will never work with me!!

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Ambinder: White House “Won’t Buckle” To Liberal Demands For Public Plan
By: Jane Hamsher Wednesday August 19, 2009 2:33 pm

http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/08/19/ambinder ... /


I know people are reluctant to believe that the President has no plans to include a public option in his health care bill, but according to Marc Ambinder, that is indeed the truth:

The White House and Senate Democrats won't buckle to demands from liberals that they revise their health care strategy, officials said today.

Liberals are demanding the inclusion of a public plan. The White House won't "revise" their strategy to accommodate them.

Glenzilla:

The attempt to attract GOP support was the pretext which Democrats used to compromise continuously and water down the bill. But -- given the impossibility of achieving that goal -- isn't it fairly obvious that a desire for GOP support wasn't really the reason the Democrats were constantly watering down their own bill? Given the White House's central role in negotiating a secret deal with the pharmaceutical industry, its betrayal of Obama's clear promise to conduct negotiations out in the open (on C-SPAN no less), Rahm's protection of Blue Dogs and accompanying attacks on progressives, and the complete lack of any pressure exerted on allegedly obstructionists "centrists," it seems rather clear that the bill has been watered down, and the "public option" jettisoned, because that's the bill they want -- this was the plan all along.

Max Baucus (who is negotiating the White House's bill) today reaffirmed his commitment to have a "bipartisan" bill. Since Republicans will never sign off on a public plan, that's not-so-subtle code for "no public plan." And any time anyone says that, including President Obama, that is in fact what they're saying.

and it looks like he probably is, then Obama needs a new chief of staff. Rahm needs to discover that he needs to spend more time with his family.

tone death. I LIKE President Obama and have faith in his genuine concern in the American People. But Rahm has put Obama in "a bubble" and should be replaced ASAP. Too bad Michelle is not more in tune with this issue because she is his "emotional balance" - she reminds him to FEEL EMPATHY for his constituents.

IMO the damn DLCers are "elitist democrats" as all that's important is POWER and continuing to serve CORPORATIONS. Neo-liberalism is morphing into fascism ... with a velvet glove.

Why do "a minority" of conservative democrats RULE our party?

FOLLOW THE MONEY.

MICHELLE KNOWS PLENTY ABOUT THIS SUBJECT



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/21/AR2008082103646.html?sid=ST2008082103653

Obama Camp
By Joe Stephens
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, August 22, 2008; Page A01

snip;

Axelrod's firm warned hospital executives in its May 2007 presentation that, although many people welcomed the initiative, primary-care doctors opposed it as a break with the center's commitment to the community. Opinion research showed that a small but passionate group of people already considered the hospital to be elitist, arrogant and lacking in "cultural empathy" for the surrounding economically depressed South Side neighborhood, according to a draft report obtained by The Washington Post. Some doctors in focus groups dismissed local health clinics as "wholly inadequate."

One of the suggestions from Axelrod's firm: Change the name of the initiative.

snip;

As a nonprofit, the University of Chicago Medical Center receives annual tax breaks worth nearly five times as much as it spends on charity care, the analysis found.

snip;

Still, Quentin Young, the South Side physician, described the medical center's level of charity spending as "ludicrous." Young, known in Chicago for having been the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s personal physician, is chairman of the Health and Medicine Policy Research Group, a Chicago-based nonprofit that advocates health-care reform. Young considered himself an ally of Barack Obama while he was a state legislator.

"That's shameful," Young said of the percentages. "They are arguably, if not defrauding, then at least taking advantage of a public subsidy. We would like to see them give more than the minimum. The need is there."


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go read this and tell me Michelle..isn't more in tune with the issue!!

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1122691,CST-NWS-hosp23.article

in my neck of the woods ..this is called patient dumping!!

option are the idea of Rahm's brother,

Zeke. http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6320973&mesg_id=6320973

I wrote to President Obama and told him that we did not vote for change to mean just changing those who line their pockets at the public expense. And I told him that I still want a public option that provides competition and doesn't set up a mechanism which will allow another entity to do what Blue Advantage did and just become another insurer.

Rahm is in this for Rahm.

The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing (FX, 81):

"Some take the bible
For what it's worth
When it says that the meek
Shall inherit the Earth
Well, I heard that some sheik
Has bought New Jersey last week
'N you suckers ain't gettin' nothin'

Is Hare Rama really wrong
If you wander around
With a napkin on
With a bell on a stick
An' your hair is all gone...
(The geek shall inherit nothin')

You say yer life's a bum deal
'N yer up against the wall...
Well, people, you ain't even got no
Deal at all
'Cause what they do
In Washington
They just takes care
of NUMBER ONE
An' NUMBER ONE ain't YOU
You ain't even NUMBER TWO

Those Jesus Freaks
Well, they're friendly but
The shit they believe
Has got their minds all shut
An' they don't even care
When the church takes a cut
Ain't it bleak when you got so much nothin'
(So whaddya do)
Eat that pork
Eat that ham
Laugh till ya choke
On Billy Graham
Moses, Aaron 'n Abraham...
They're all a waste of time
'N it's yer ass that's on the line
(IT'S YER ASS THAT'S ON THE LINE)

Do what you wanna
Do what you will
Just don't mess up
Your neighbor's thrill
'N when you pay the bill
Kindly leave a little tip
And help the next poor sucker
On his one way trip. . .
SOME TAKE THE BIBLE. . .
(Aw gimme a half a dozen for the hotel room!)"

was brought into this scheme somehow. I think that's why Big Ed freaked on him yesterday. He knows Alter has strongly backed a public option, due to his own harrowing experience with brain cancer, but was totally flabbergasted at how easily he had folded.

He really grilled Linda Douglas the other day about the disorganized and conflicting messages coming from the White House.

in this. But why should he? He's a DLCer, and he and the Blue Dogs have that in common...protecting corporate interests :puke:

...connections with the healthcare industry, it was pretty obvious he's not on our side ~ so where does that leave the prez??

That's what I'd like to know.

people he actaully has to work with?

...him to sic Rahm on the liberals for doing what has to be done.

By forcing REAL Democrats out of the races for those seats?

Of course he's protecting them. They're a vital part of the DLC agenda to kill the Democratic party from within.

There is no Bill fucking idiots!