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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:17 AM
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Grassley:If Obama Doesn’t Publicly Renounce Public Option Now, He’s Not Interested In Bipartisanship
Grassley: If Obama Doesn’t Publicly Renounce Public Option Now, He’s Not Truly Interested In Bipartisanship

Senator Chuck Grassley now appears to be throwing the gauntlet down before the White House in a way that seems explicitly designed to make trouble for President Obama at an extraordinarily sensitive moment — which will fuel charges he’s not negotiating in good faith.

Specifically: Grassley’s now demanding that Obama publicly repudiate the public option right now to prove he’s truly interested in bipartisan compromise. That, to me, is the most interesting news in this extraordinary interview Grassley gave The Washington Post:

In recent days, however, some Democrats have accused Grassley of trying to undermine the reform effort, for example by refusing to debunk rumors that the Democratic health bills would create “death panels” empowered to decide whether the infirm live or die.

On Wednesday, he denied those claims and fired back at Obama, saying the president should publicly state his willingness to sign a bill without a controversial government-run insurance plan. Such a statement, he said, is “pretty important … if you’re really interested in a bipartisan bill.”

This is partly a paraphrase. But presuming it’s accurate, it’s pretty striking. Grassley knows the White House is under tremendous pressure to contain a revolt on the left over the public option. It’s hard to imagine any reason for demanding Obama renounce the public option right now, before there’s even a bill out of the finance committee, other than to make life politically difficult for the President.

How does that compare with the White House’s treatment of Grassley? When the Senator endorsed the “death panel” claim, the White House reaffirmed its commitment to working with him. Dems quietly let Grassley claim a big victory by dropping the public option from the Senate bill he’s negotiating. And when Rahm Emanuel questioned the sincerity of GOP leaders yesterday, an apparent shot at Grassley, the White House rapidly walked it back.

Grassley, meanwhile, has now raised the bar yet again for what will constitute true bipartisanship on the White House’s part. Pretty telling.

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/senate-republicans/grassley-obama-should-publicly-drop-public-option-now-to-prove-hes-really-bipartisan/
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:19 AM
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1. Grassley needs to be shut the fuck down. How is his lying ass bossing people?
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:20 AM
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2. Do we look like fools, Chuck?
Go back to being the obscure little weasel from Iowa that you always have been. Your 15 minutes are up and you didnt even know what to do with them.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:27 AM
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5. If Grassley was indeed
an obscure senator his words would be less significant. Unfortunately he is an important senator, at least by reason of seniority, and his words do matter. I will add that I am disappointed in Grassley. I considered him to be one of the sane ones. Very conservative but old school republican, in a good way. SOmebody you can disagree with but still meaningfully work with. But his actions and words (and for a senator words ARE actions) lately have been despicable.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:08 AM
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13. Disagree.. Anyone who would lie about the "death panels"
has no honor. HIS words and deeds have been despicable.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:30 PM
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38. He actually had a lot of support from Democrats around here before this spectacle.
Not me mind you, but a lot of moderates would actually agree with him on some issues. I haven't heard much support lately though. He's gone loony.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:02 PM
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27. Makes you wonder how much the insurance industry is paying him for this.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:12 PM
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30. He sounds like he has blood money running
out of his mouth.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:22 AM
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3. Keep it up, Chuckles. There are 400,000 Iowans without HC and
we will do everything we can to get each and every one out to say thanks next year with a vote for your democratic vote.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:27 AM
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4. Hey, CHUCK YOU, GRASSLEY!
Your party LOST the election. GO in the corner and whine.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:28 AM
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6. Because the President has allowed dweebs, like Grassley, to dictate terms,
as if the Republicans had won the last election, rather than get all "Chief Executive" on their asses, reminding them whom the people elected in November.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:41 AM
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7. How much does Grassley get from corporations against health care? or is he just a lying idiot?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:42 AM
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8. Sniff, sniff--do you smell onions?
:rofl:
rocktivity
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:45 AM
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9. GOOD: This helps make it clear Obama's position to everyone!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:46 AM
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10. Footage can be gathered easily when politicians do what Grassley is doing,
and run repeatedly on radio and television come the next election cycle.


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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:48 AM
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11. Then screw bipartisanship
Screw him. Seriously.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:51 AM
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12. Stop!
or I will be forced to yell stop again!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:59 PM
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25. I hope that's all he's got in his arsenal.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:09 AM
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14. this guy reminds me of a old drunk on the western channel
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:11 AM
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15. This is what drives guys like Ed Schultz nuts. If Grassley and the Republicans
can throw down the gauntlet and draw a line in the sand. Why the hell can't our President who has majorities is both Houses not do the same? This is why people are beginning to call him weak.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:22 AM
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16. Heh, Chucko, when the Thugs bring something to the table that they are FOR, we might talk.
Otherwise, go scream at someone who cares what you think.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:33 AM
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17. But Grassley wouldn't dream of showing "bipartisanship by EMBRACING the public option, no? Bi-
partisanship is a two-way street, bitch.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:08 PM
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28. Exactly. Demonstrate your own bipartisanship Grassley.
Demonstrate an OUNCE of compassion for the 47 million uninsured for just a second, too, Grassley.

Tell us how you Republicans would cover everyone for less than we're now paying, Grassley, and then we'll talk.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:29 PM
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37. Though of course "bipartisanship" translated means CORPORATIST!

And NO! We don't want to be "bipartisan" aka CORPORATIST!
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 10:36 PM
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42. Actually, it was best expressed by George Carlin: "Whenever I hear the word 'bipartisan',
it lets me know that some larger than usual deception is afoot."
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:43 AM
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18. Grassley showed no concern when he voted for the bloated Medicare Rx bill. Projected price: $1T+
Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 08:53 AM by flpoljunkie
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=1&vote=00262

Democrats will have to be both the liberals and the conservatives on health care. They must have been rolling in the aisles this week when Sen. Jon Kyl, Republican of Arizona, announced, "There is no way Republicans are going to support a trillion-dollar-plus bill."

Republicans already have. In 2006, their Medicare drug benefit legislation was projected to cost $1.08 trillion over 10 years. (This was just one benefit serving one slice of the population.) Last year, the estimate was reduced to a tad under $1 trillion, and Republicans rejoiced over the great deal they had struck.

There was nothing traditionally conservative about the Medicare drug benefit. Republicans were simply shoveling taxpayer dollars to their friends in the insurance and drug industry. This was crony capitalism, Chinese-style.

And the drug benefit was certainly not fiscally conservative. The Bush administration and Congress had absolutely no thought of paying for the thing -- other than borrowing the money and passing the bill onto future generations.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/08/20/democrats_must_fix_health_care_alone_97962.html
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:51 AM
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19. When since January 20, 2009 has Chuck ever been truly interested in bipartisanship,
Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 08:51 AM by BlueMTexpat
except as a concept where Republicans get everything they want, in spite of having seen themselves and their so-called ideas resoundingly defeated last November?
May he himself suffer resounding defeat at the polls. Iowa deserves better representation.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 09:02 AM
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20. He's a grasshole.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 09:07 AM
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21. Grassley feels he has the upper hand and is going for the kill
He senses weakness in the WH and division in the Democratic party.

The next few days or weeks should be very interesting.

If Obama walks away from the public option, as I suspect he has always been willing to do, then the pukes will be able to claim victory.

If he stands up to this, which I hope for but do not expect, they plan to blame him for the failure of bipartisanship.

Grassley sees this as win-win.



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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:01 PM
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26. So let him stand up to it and lose the "bipartisnship" thing? What exactly is
"bipartisanship" worth if it means people like Grassley get to roll over you and set the agenda?
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 03:32 PM
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40. I don't think it was ever worth it. The gang of six has been a disaster...
That should not have been permitted.

Let's not forget that it was Democrats who handed him this power, which he seems to determined to use to kill any chance of success.

I would have shut down that group a month ago, if not sooner.

Grassley is an asshat who will never agree to anything.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 09:09 AM
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22. Go chuck yourself, grassley.
I'm SICK TO DEATH OF THE GANG OF PSYCHOS 'MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY' attitude.

You lost because your side hasn't had a new idea in decades. We won. Get over it.

You're a liar, Grassley. The people of Iowa should throw your ass out of office the next chance they get.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 09:10 AM
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23. So this IS poker. Keep it up, Chuck. Keep up your childish bluff.
Come out on this louder, please.

Please hit the talk shows with your challenge...

Be the spokesman for the assholes and make our job easier.

:donut:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:18 PM
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33. Exactly.Obama "killed" bipartisanship, wasn't that just what the Rethugs were
whining about the other day? LOL.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:31 PM
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24. Grassley saying this publicly shows he's not interested in bipartisanship.
What an asinine statement.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:08 PM
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29. Clowns deserve an audience, and laughter.
I think we should provide it.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:15 PM
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31. I think the WH wants Grassley to keep having fits about bipartisanship
Keep Grasshead in a tizzy for awhile, idiot has no idea how to not say stupid things.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:16 PM
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32. ROLF! Grasshole is trying to play chess and force Obama's hand. LMAO!
Someone needs to let poor Grasshole in on the dirty little secret . . . Obama is not interested in Republican's version of bipartisanship.

Gibb's was pretty good in today's press briefing, saying that it's the Republicans who have no interest in bipartisanship. Obama has tried to work with them since he got into office, but they are having none of it. When Todd asked "why do you say that?" Instead of saying "DUH!" Gibbs simply reminded them how the GOP announced that they would vote against Obama's stimulus bill moments before he left the White House to go meet with them at their offices. They also talked about voting against health care reform so they could "break" Obama.

Obama is legitimately able to claim he tried, but the Repugs were not interested. :rofl:
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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:19 PM
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34. Uh-oh, Grassley's down to his rooks and pawns!! nt
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:28 PM
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35. If Grassley doesn't want the public option, HE is not interested in bipartisanship...
NOR the will of the American people!

Just say NO to those who only work for corporate people!
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:29 PM
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36. GrASSley already threw bipartisanship under the bus.
And he can't play chess, by making the same move twice with the same piece!
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:32 PM
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39. In a democracy, the MINORITY should be bargaining NOT the majority!
The Republicans as a minority should be the one trying to cut "bipartisan" deals! Not the majority party!

The problem is that we have too many closet Republican DINOS that need some serious chemotherapy to be thrown at them for the cancer they are on this party.
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 04:40 PM
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41. Find a candidate to run against him and fund that candidate liberally.
Blanket his constituency with information on health care and medicare and on Grassley's position on any measure to help ordinary people vs. helping large entities.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 10:44 PM
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43. Losers can't dictate the terms
He has shown his willingness, but the GOP has shown their asses.

Fail.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 01:55 PM
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44. FYCG! nt
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