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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 06:19 PM
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Nate Silver: For Democrats, a "Moment of Clarity" on Health Care?
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/08/democrats-moment-of-clairity-on-health.html

For Democrats, a "Moment of Clarity" on Health Care?
by Nate Silver @ 12:03 PM


After a couple of very tough weeks, Congressional Democrats seem to be wising up on health care reform.

-- First, there's the news that Democrats seem prepared to drop the pretense of collaborating with Republicans on a health care reform bill. This is long overdue: with the possible exceptions of Mainers Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins**, and perhaps one or two retiring Republicans who can vote their conscience, Republicans have absolutely no incentive to give the Democrats a victory on a health care package. Credit, I guess, goes to Chuck Grassley for basically admitting as much, but the Republicans -- who until recently had outmaneuvered Democrats at virtually every stage of the health care debate -- made a pretty significant tactical error by giving the Democrats such a good excuse to go it alone. They may also have erred in so aggressively attacking the proposed co-ops provision, which is far weaker than the public option and is a compromise that anyone working in good faith for a "bipartisan" (i.e. weaker) health care bill ought to giddily accept.

-- Secondly, there's this trial balloon, leaked to the Wall Street Journal, about splitting the health care bill into two pieces, with some parts to be passed by reconciliation (requiring only 50 votes plus the Vice President) and others to be passed through ordinary procedure (60 votes required to overcome a filibuster). I don't think this strategy is quite as genius as it looks: if you're a senator who objects to the parts of the bill that are supposed to be passed by reconciliation, couldn't you register that displeasure by filibustering the less controversial parts of the bill when you otherwise approve them? Still, it overcomes the other major problem with reconciliation, which is that nobody knows what would be left in the bill once the Senate Parliamentarian got done with it. It's probably a bluff, but it's a better, more credible bluff than the one that the Democrats were hoping to run before.

-- One of the other obstacles that Democrats faced in passing a health care package -- and one which nobody quite seemed comfortable talking about -- is that Ted Kennedy's vote probably could not be counted upon because of of his ailing health. If Kennedy were to pass away, indeed, Democrats would face roughly a six-month delay until Massachusetts held a special election, during which time Massachusetts would have only one senator. Kennedy, however, is now pressuring the Massachusetts legislature to revise its special elections law to permit an interim gubernatorial appointment until that election takes place (Massachusetts is one of just four states that does not permit an interim appointment -- a provision the legislature introduced when it looked like then-governor Mitt Romney might appoint a Republican replacement were John Kerry to become President). From a public policy standpoint, I can't say I like the idea of changing the rules in midstream. But, if the Massachusetts legislature changes its law (and with roughly 8-to-1 Democratic majorities in both chambers, it probably will), its voters will at least have a couple of opportunities to register their displeasure, either by voting for a Republican to replace Kennedy when the special election occurs, or by voting the legislators out of office.

The Democrats still face a whole host of obstacles in passing a health care bill, but the odds today look a little better than they did 48 hours ago.

** p.s. Speaking of Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, I'm up in Maine on what's supposed to be a vacation, so I apologize if posting has been somewhat light for the past few days -- it will continue to be so through the weekend.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 06:31 PM
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1. Welcome to Maine. Spend lots of money.
Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 06:35 PM by Davis_X_Machina
The Grassley thing is very significant. The GOP struck their colors today -- Grassley's 80-vote trial balloon today was clearly a case of a fan of the losing team bragging about covering the spread. I think he knows he can't sustain a filibuster without Democratic help, and that got less likely this week.

Things on the 'left of the left' are heating up nicely, so Obama can go to the Senate Democratic 'moderates' and say "Guys, help a brother Senator out -- those craaaazy liberals are going to eat me alive, especially in the House."

Johnson used to go to the Dixiecrat rump in the Senate all the time and pull this one, with a fair amount of success.

I expect a tidal wave of crap thrown at us, yeah, sure, and from all sides, but I don't plan to take 90% of it tossed by other Dems seriously.

It ain't over till it's over, but it's got distinctly over-ish features to it.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 07:38 AM
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4. "it's got distinctly over-ish features to it" - boy, do I hope you are right! nt
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 06:31 PM
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2. Nate Silver has been on the ball, pretty consistently, imho. A recommended read.
:thumbsup:

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 06:42 PM
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3. Indeed, My Friend
"The essence of war is a reasoned and extremely circumspect defensive, followed by audacious attack."
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 08:15 AM
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5. I agree -- Rarely do I find myself disagreeing with him. (nt)
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 08:46 AM
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6. Well, if Nate thinks so...but his analysis seems a bit schizophrenic to me.
Like a week ago he was predicting doom, the week before that he was all sunshine and roses.
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