Politifact says it is false that 76% support the public option. But their analysis stinks

Becky72

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Thu Aug-20-09 11:47 PM
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Politifact says it is false that 76% support the public option. But their analysis stinks

Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 12:04 AM by Becky72

Politifact thinks that the 76% comes directly from NBC polls taken in June, when in fact this data comes from a poll conducted on August 19 by SurveyUSA! Politifact does not mention SurveyUSA once in its pseudo-analysis.

This is what's written in the SurveyUSA poll that a fellow DU'er already posted earlier:

SurveyUSA Health Care Data Gathered Using NBC News Wall Street Journal Questions: SurveyUSA asked 1,200 USA adults four questions that, word-for-word, were included in the three most recent NBC News / Wall Street Journal polls.

Again, SurveyUSA polled 1,200 adults on August 16th, asking questions identical to those used by NBC in June. This does not mean that the 76% (actually 77% in SurveyUSA) stems from the June polls.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/aug/20/progressive-change-campaign-committee/groups-claim-overwhelming-support-public-option/

Contact them: badair@sptimes.com and aholan@sptimes.com

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Clio the Leo

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Thu Aug-20-09 11:50 PM
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1. right now I'm only worried about 51% of the US Congress.

The rest of the country who are opposed to affordable health care can deal with it. I had to put up with their stupid war, they can put up with my "socialized" medicine. :)

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MrModerate

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Thu Aug-20-09 11:55 PM
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4. That "rest of the country" is a substantial minority -- especially when someone explains . . .

What's actually being proposed.

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ProSense

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Thu Aug-20-09 11:52 PM
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2. There goes their reputation for reliable fact checking. Oh wait,

my bad, they have no reputation.

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NYC_SKP

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Thu Aug-20-09 11:53 PM
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3. 58% Extremely Important + 19% Quite Important that the plan has a Public Option= 77%

Question:

In any health care proposal, how important do you feel it is to give people a choice of both a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for their health insurance--extremely important, quite important, not that important, or not at all important?

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=5ba17aa2-f1b9-4445-a6b8-62b9d1ba8693

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Becky72

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Thu Aug-20-09 11:57 PM
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6. Exactly. and Politifact mentioned several polls except for the SurveyUSA one

The website tried to stress the fact that several polls (Kaiser, NYT) found numbers that are way below 76% in July, but did not include the SUSA that was conducted two days ago, like I said.

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NYC_SKP

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Fri Aug-21-09 12:04 AM
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7. IIRC, Survey USA was among the more reliable pollsters last year.

And their sample size was good, N=1200.

These ABC WaPo type polls are not seriously done, not up to snuff academically.

Thanks for the OP.

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DrToast

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Thu Aug-20-09 11:56 PM
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5. Send it to the person who updates that page

crichert@politifact.com

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/staff/catharine-richert/

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