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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:38 AM
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Updated: Where Congress Stands (on the public option)
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 12:09 PM by ProSense
Want to know where Congress stands on the public option?

House
Yes: 198
No: 6
Don't Know 236

Senate
Yes: 44
No: 39
Don't Know 16

Updated to mention that the 39 against are all Republicans and Lieberman.

Also, adding Franken to the yes column makes it 45 Democrats supporting the public option

Uncommitted Senators:

Sen Max Baucus D MT
Sen Evan Bayh D IN
Sen Mark Begich D AK
Sen Robert Byrd D WV
Sen Thomas Carper D DE
Sen Kent Conrad D ND
Sen John Isakson R GA
Sen Mary Landrieu D LA
Sen Blanche Lincoln D AR
Sen Bill Nelson D FL
Sen E. Benjamin Nelson D NE
Sen Mark Pryor D AR
Sen Olympia Snowe R ME
Sen Jon Tester D MT
Sen Mark Warner D VA
Sen Ron Wyden D OR
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:40 AM
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1. 39 no's in the Senate? That is appalling.
That's not even enough to get it through reconciliation. Harry Reid needs to go. He's the worst majority leader ever.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:42 AM
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2. They're all Republicans. n/t
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:44 AM
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4. I thought we had at lease 50 Dems in support of it.
What a bunch of pigs. Public option is good for them, but not for the rest of us.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:50 AM
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6. Right now 16 have either not stated publicly or are hedging
One thing for certain, there is currently more difinitive support for than against the public option.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:01 PM
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7. That is no longer accurate- about half of those 16 have
since declared support.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 02:26 PM
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31. With reconciliation, we'll get enough.
Edited on Sat Aug-22-09 02:27 PM by backscatter712
We can afford to lose ALL of the Republicans, and a few of the more obnoxious Conservadems like Baucus, Conrad, Landrieu, Lincoln...

There will be heavy, heavy pressure on the Dems to not be monkey-wrenching health care reform when it's down to the final floor vote. Maybe tools like Baucus and Conrad will resist, but not all the fence-sitters will. We'll get 50.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:44 AM
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3. looks like the insurance industry is very smart with their donations...
what else could be the reason for anyone in the Senate to "NO". Disappointing, but we still have to wait and see.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:48 AM
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5. "what else could be the reason for anyone in the Senate to 'NO'."
Does anyone read anything before commenting?

The 39 are Republicans.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:54 PM
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10. ProSense....
maybe you could have made that clear in your post for all us dummies.....:shrug:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:56 PM
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12. Well,
no one said anything about "dummies."
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:21 PM
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20. Refering to it as 'donations' is rather laughable
a more accurate term would be legalized bribery.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:04 PM
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8. Reconciliation: I think i read that going this route could ELIMINATE Public option
So aiming for the 51 votes might not be the real problem. I wish it was since getting to 51 with only 6 (+1 from Biden) out of 16 seems easy.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:10 PM
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9. Updated the OP to reflect Senator Franken's support. That's 45. n/t
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:55 PM
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11. What the fuck is wrong with Ron Wyden? nt.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 12:57 PM
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28. Wyden has a co-op bill but he has indicated that if public
option makes it into a final bill it will have his support.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 05:04 PM
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33. Thank You!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:58 PM
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13. This thread has unrecs ..so why wouldn't
this be useful news for the greatest?
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jmondine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:24 PM
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25. Unrecommend: The DU equivalent of the Town Hall Disruption
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 01:00 PM
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14. Apparently every California Rep and Sen Support Public Option except for 2 "don't know".
I'm impressed.

I thought DiFi was uncommitted.

Recommended.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 05:09 PM
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16. Excellent. n/t
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 09:14 PM
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21. .
stealthy :kick:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 01:01 PM
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15. Thank You For The Count, Ma'am
The necessary numbers are in reach....
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 05:12 PM
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17. So we could need as few as six of the uncommitted senators if we go the reconciliation route.
By the way, when did Wyden become such a tool?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 05:49 PM
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18. WHERE ARE THE FUCKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS MOST USEFUL POST OF THE DAY?? WRITE TO CONGRESS!!!
Ok, I rarely go all caps on anything....

....but here we are all moaning and sniping and we unrecommend the most useful post of the day.

write some fucking emails and get Wyden and Warner and Nelson, et al, on the right side of this.

Pardon my caps.

This is important, in case you didn't know...

:donut:
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 12:58 PM
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29. There would be more recommendations if the count were accurate.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 05:57 PM
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19. KnR I emailed every single senator my letter. I hope Collins and Snowe write back.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 09:40 PM
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22. Well numbers have improved in the Senate
we have gone from 41 to 44

Good news...

More calls needed I guess.

Oh and these are mostly blue doggies, and two republicans...
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 09:41 PM
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23. 5 Senators to make it (for reconciliation).
Only problem is Kennedy is very ill right now.
I would go after the Dems from blue states first...Wyden, Carper, Warner
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 09:52 PM
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24. kick
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 11:48 PM
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26. Mark Warner is just a big bland disappointment to me
Jim Webb on the other hand completely rocks.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 12:59 AM
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27. We're going to win this thing.
How do I know? Gut instinct. :)
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 02:11 PM
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30. Well, I'm for continuing the ads calling out Blue Dogs and their special interests...
Edited on Sat Aug-22-09 02:15 PM by polichick
Remember this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/14/evan-bayh-forming-conserv_n_150874.html
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K&R
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 10:42 AM
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34. KICK! nt
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