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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:07 PM
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Gibbs: Obama is comfortable being a one term President
Gibbs says "If making tough decisions and getting important things done" means Obama will only be in the White House for just one term "he's quite comfortable with that."

:)

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:08 PM
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1. I'm not.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:09 PM
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2. same here
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:13 PM
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5. I'll cry if it happens. But I think we stand a better chance of Bush counting to ten than that.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:23 PM
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20. I agree
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:15 PM
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9. Me Neither, but I imagine what he's
saying is..if that's what it takes to get a real health care reform for everyone then so be it.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:51 PM
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52. Me either, gray.
The very IDEA that Bush's rancid @ss sat in that office for eight years and Obama would only be limited to four just makes me want to :puke:
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:10 PM
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3. Then he needs to push ahead with the public option on health care
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 12:11 PM by rox63
But I don't think it would make him a one-term president. I think the people will be very happy to have access to decent health care.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 11:48 AM
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72. I could not agree more!
As President Clinton said recently, once the program gets underway. and people see what it really is, they will be very happy, and he will be supported by an even larger majority than he was last year.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:12 PM
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4. if that's the case -- then bring on the "tough decisions!"
n/t
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:13 PM
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6. What? That's an insane thing to say. Did Gibbs really say that? n/t
:crazy:

:dem:

-Laelth
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:14 PM
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7. It's a very smart thing to say
even if it's not true.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:18 PM
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16. Perhaps, but I am not seeing it.
I appreciate the President's convictions if Gibbs' statement is true. I'd rather have a President who does the right thing, regardless of political cost, than a President who does the wrong thing for political gain.

I just don't see how it's wise to declare that inclination in a press conference.

:dem:

-Laelth
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:17 PM
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15. Yes, in response to a question about Obama saying if getting meaningful health-care reform passed
means he'll be a one-term president, he'd be comfortable with that.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:34 PM
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23. I would imagine many presidents have made this declaration.
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 12:36 PM by tritsofme
They are showing "how serious" the issue the is.

It also becomes your battlecry, if you do in fact lose, I suppose.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:46 PM
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25. "Killing ground"? Perhaps.
I just wish he were shooting for single-payer. If he staked his political career on that I'd have more respect for him.

As it is, he seems to be staking his political career on a mediocre proposal that's "heads the insurance companies win, tails the American people lose."

:dem:

-Laelth
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 05:10 PM
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59. Not only did Gibbs say it
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 05:13 PM by Politicalboi
Obama said it the other day. I hope if he's gonna bet the farm, he goes all the way with Medicare for EVERYONE. I think this is another Chess Master move. Let all the freaks come out and think that killing health care is all they need to do to get him out of office.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 05:16 PM
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60. I agree with you. For high risk there should be high reward. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 07:10 PM
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63. Not only did Gibbs say it, the President has said it.....
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 07:10 PM by Clio the Leo
.... and of course I cant find the reference now because of all of the news from today on the same subject, but trust me, he did.

Said something like "if I could get everything that needed to get done in one term, I'd be tempted to only serve one term ..... however ......."

Dont sweat it, it's spin ...... the kid had the NASCAR champion on the south lawn of the White House this week .... you think that had anything to do with health care?

Or was he trying to charm red state voters?

It's one of those things you CAN say ....... when you're Barack Obama and know that your main concern about Inauguration day 2013 is how long your speech should be.
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:15 PM
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8. Sad thing is he was left such a BIG MESS by dubya,
it will take him at least 2 years to try to fix that mess.

So truly, he should be given at least a 6 year term, 2 yrs to clean up, 4 yrs to serve as if nothing to do but govern, THEN re-election!

;)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:28 PM
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22. Yeah, that could work in a
Perfect world.:)
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:15 PM
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10. I wouldn't worry too much about this. It's just talk.
If he makes tough decisions and gets things done, he won't be a one-termer as I fully expect to see enough improvement by 2012 to assure a second term.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:16 PM
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11. Methinks it's called "going for broke". . .
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 12:16 PM by DinahMoeHum
and sometimes you/we have to do that if we expect to see any real, lasting change.

:kick:
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:16 PM
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12. I see this only as a ploy to push the GOP further with the attacks and opposition to health care
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 12:18 PM by Parker CA
legislation, so that when Obama ends up passing it, they look like even bigger blathering, incompetent fools than they already do.

IMO, you don't put out statements about being happy with the prospect of a one-term presidency after the campaign they ran without near certainty that a second term is all but in the bag. This is purely Obama and his team pushing buttons with the GOP to nudge them over the edge, and about making his base work harder to ensure that he's in the WH for another 7.5 years.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:17 PM
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13. If a public option doesn't make it into the bill, he WILL be a one termer
but not for the reasons he thinks.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:17 PM
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14. It REALLY depends on who these "tough decisions and important things" are serving!!!
If they serve other well-heeled interests that are willing to pay handsomely in favors to those to do their bidding for one term instead of them doing their constituency's biddings that might get them more, then it is ALL WRONG, and we as the people need something like a "no-confidence" vote to flush such garbage out of the system sooner!

If those in power are truly trying to do what's right for the American people and are afraid of the special interests lining up against them to force them to a single term later, then they need to start the battle now to put in place public campaign financing to take these special interest bribery institutions out of the mix.

It's really as simple as that!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:19 PM
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He doesn't have to be.
All he has to do is make sure that the health care reform package isn't a big Christmas present to the insurance industry. If there is a robust government health care option it will do the job. He will do two terms.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:19 PM
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17. That's easy to say in 2009
There'll be a different tune in 2012.

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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:21 PM
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18. Especially when polls show: Pres. Obama leads Palin by Wide Margin...
:D
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:08 PM
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42. I think Obama will win re-election, but I doubt that Palin will be the GOP nominee
I think it will probably be Mitt Romney.

Steve
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 04:40 PM
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57. DO NOT RUIN MY FANTASY!
haha, I want him to run against Palin and cream her.

I took delight in seeing hear near-tears on election night last year.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 11:57 AM
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75. Nope, it won't be her in 2012.
But it would be like the Super Bowl to see her and Hillary in 2016.

:popcorn:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:54 PM
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66. She's winning the Birther segment of the GOP - which is a large part.
Poll: Palin Winning The Birther Primary, Romney Way Behind

Eric Kleefeld | August 21, 2009, 10:56AM

A new analysis by Public Policy Polling (D) finds that Sarah Palin is especially popular with a key Republican demographic: The Birthers.

Among those respondents in PPP's latest national poll who either said that President Obama was not born in the United States or were undecided, Palin had a 66% favorability rating. Of the other three Republicans that were tested in the poll, Mike Huckabee was in second place at 58%, then Newt Gingrich with 46%, and Mitt Romney was last with only 43% favorability.

From PPP communications director Tom Jensen: "I mean this with all sincerity -- Romney's lack of popularity with the birther wing of the GOP really could scuttle his chances at the nomination in three years."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/poll-palin-winning-the-birther-primary-romney-way-behind.php?ref=fpb
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 11:54 AM
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74. It might be Jeb Bush.
After all, he is the one that the family thought was going to run for president and not his dimwit brother. I also heard rumblings from the Repugs that he's mulling it over.

I think that, although Palin has support with many in the base, the party realizes that she's damaged goods for a general election. They won't make that mistake again.

:-)
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:22 PM
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19. I want to see him re-elected
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 12:23 PM by Proud Liberal Dem
I know he doesn't seem to be faring very well around here and is supposedly rapidly losing confidence with the American people but this being 2009 and in the heat of a very heated battle over HCR, I'm not really that worried. If he gets good HCR passed and it really starts helping people, then I can't imagine a Republican "White Knight" being able to swoop in and take back the WH in 2012 and the GOP's failure to work with Obama and the Dems on HCR may even prevent them from making major gains (which they probably aren't going to make anyway, but it certainly won't help them) in 2010 if it turns out to be successful.

Out of curiosity, what is this OP in relation to?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:24 PM
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21. there is almost no chance of a 1-term presidency
who's going to defeat him? seriously, there's not one viable GOP candidate. every one of them has shot themselves in the foot.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:44 PM
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24. good thing
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:47 PM
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26. Calling their bluff and dismissing the question in one simple STFU response to the question.
I like Gibbs.

I was uncertain at first, but he's a sly one.

And, at times, funny.

:patriot:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:49 PM
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27. If he acts like a president who doesn't need a second term, it will be his for the taking
life's funny that way. :shrug:
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:34 PM
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48. Exactly. You and I think a like.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:50 PM
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28. His plan is to cash out BIG with a plush corporate gig after the presidency.
One term is better than two because he gets paid even faster.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:55 PM
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29. Epic Fail Post
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 01:03 PM
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34. Epic fail by you to face what's obvious.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 01:07 PM
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37. LOL....yeah, if he had a history of that. He could have had a plush job
years ago but became a community organizer instead.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:17 PM
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43. Bingo. Those pesky facts! nt
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:41 PM
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50. if he wanted to get out and be richer, he wouldn't have taken his life into his hands by running
and by being President.

everyday for the past two years he has had countless death threats and every crazy wants a piece of him.

if he wanted what you claim he wants so badly, first he could have had it already, second he already is wealthy and third about the hardest, most obstacle-filled path to a retirement corporate gig is getting elected president and then being president for four years.

what you don't explain, because it can't be explained (obviously) is why a man who could already have what you claim he is aiming for, would waste his time and risk his life running and being president for all these years in the interim.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:55 PM
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30. Silliest thing I've seen on these boards in 6 months. n/t
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 01:06 PM
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36. Only if you've been living in Opposite Land all that time.
Maybe you need to reverse those jumper cables.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 01:17 PM
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38. He makes the same money...
...at worse money with the same number of zeros, whether doing speeches, on his memoirs, serving on boards, etc. regardless of whether he does a good job, or a bad one, serves one term or two.

He's not going back to waiting tables....

So let's play Monty Hall.

Door #1 -- ridiculous amounts of boodle.
Door #2 -- ridiculous amounts of boodle, and a place in history.
Door #3 -- ridiculous amounts of boodle, and ignominy or worse.

Obama of course chooses #3.

Yep. That's logicial. Unless he chooses it just to piss off Jim Sagle!
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 04:59 PM
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58. #3 gets him paid 4 years sooner. I doubt he cares one whit about ignominy.
That's based on how he sneers at and blows off the Democratic base every chance he gets.

You already know this stuff. I can point it out to you, but I can't face it for you.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 10:47 PM
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65. Maybe VISA's on his ass...
...or his student loans are in default, and he can't wait?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 01:23 PM
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40. Classic Projection. EOM
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:43 PM
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51. .
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 01:20 PM
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39. Post of the Year
:rofl:
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tranche Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 01:31 PM
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41. This is what you came away with from this Gibbs comment?
Really?

Seriously, what do you see Obama doing in the corporate world? Give me a company and a position.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:37 PM
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49. lol
:rofl:
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argonaut Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:04 PM
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61. LOL at bitter PUMA. n/t
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:54 PM
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62. Right, because the way to make money is by becoming president
Spend 2+ years on the road, campaigning -- along with everything that goes with that (sleepless nights, away from your home and family, constant media attention and attacked, giving stump speeches over and over from one town to the next)...competing with 9-10 other people just as determined as you are...

and that's just up til the primaries. Then if you manage to survive that round, you still have ANOTHER 5-6 months doing the same thing against your real opponent in the general, who has also just gone through the same thing and is even more determined for it.

All of that, for a job that entails being "on call" 24/7, every day, for 4 years straight, in which you not only have to manage shit at home, in a country of 300 million people -- but you also have to deal with any big international crises as well.

But you think Obama did/is doing all of that, just go get a "plush corporate gig" ... when he could have just gone straight into the private sector to begin with? Ok... :eyes:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 11:43 AM
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71. One way to make money IS by becoming president. Just ask Bill Clinton.
Edited on Sat Aug-22-09 11:44 AM by Jim Sagle
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 05:55 PM
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76. A pretty dumb way
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123311139510422915.html

The Clintons' reported that their net worth is between $7 million and $36 million.


When CEOs are making hundreds of millions of dollars a year, doing everything that running for and being president entails to make the amount of money Clinton makes (even if it seems enormous to us), is dumb if you're looking to make money.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 12:48 AM
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79. Not such a dumb way for Bill. Most CEO's are born rich and connected.
Clinton's career path was right for him.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 07:21 PM
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77. ...and the unprecented number of DEATH THREATS against him? Child's play!
I'm sure Michelle and the kids don't mind a little extra excitement in their husband and dad's line of work...because think of the financial payoff!

:eyes:
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:56 PM
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31. Just the thought of it makes me want to puke
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:56 PM
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33. I wouldn't be bothered by the possibility of his being a one-term prez, if only that term weren't:
"bipartisanship."

;-)
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 01:04 PM
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35. I hope he's comfortable being a two-termer, cuz he's gonna be.
B-)
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:20 PM
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44. It seems pretty clear - you make that declaration as a show of fearlessness
I think it's safe to say that pretty much any President, at least in recent memory, wants to serve the two terms they're allotted.

Who was the last one who chose NOT to run for a second term?

Given that, when you say it doesn't matter if you get a second term, you take some of the air out of the efforts of your opposition, who assume one of the worst things they can do is to deny you that second term.

It's no different than the motivation behind declaring an unpopular opinion, or saying you don't mind losing your job over a certain issue; that you're willing to take a risk that most others would not themselves take is a bold and brave move.
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:26 PM
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45. Gibbs is terrible
a lot of the chaos of the last month, I lay right at his feckless feet.
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:33 PM
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46. Millions & millions of people did NOT donate time, effort, & money
during the campaign to hear President Obama being content w/one term....

Hopefully, this was some sort of Jedi mind trick..

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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 01:15 AM
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67. Ummm... there's an election every four years

Just what were you planning to do for the next one?
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:34 PM
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47. If a real public option passes, then in 2015, people will be lobbying Congress to make a special
bill that allows him to run for a 3rd term.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:54 PM
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53. Gibbs sucks
I have stopped listening to Gibbs, because he makes me like the President less. He telegraphs uncertainty and seems to stammer listlessly until he nails just the right set of grease to speak. He seems as if he's on a xanax and can not wait for the presser to end so he can return to pretending he is more than a mouthpiece.
Can not stand him. Rubs me very much the wrong way. If I read what he says, it is more acceptable, but if I see or hear him say it, it just brings me down. But I am sure most people adore him and that he is instilling great passion in the public for the President's agenda. No one is liked by everyone, that is for sure.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 04:15 PM
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54. With that attitude, he's guaranteed two terms.

People want results.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 04:16 PM
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55. BullHockey...I did not put a year of work in to getting the President elected
for four years only. :)
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 04:17 PM
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56. Hell, why not go for broke then?? nt
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 07:20 PM
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64. You will notice no one feared Bush being a one termer....
..... HOPED maybe, but never feared.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 02:13 AM
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68. Oh good. We'll see the suspension of DADT right away then.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 10:07 AM
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69. Now that he has experienced what a thankless job it is, I'm sure he knows it
would be better for his health not to do it for 8 years. I hope things settle down and he can get some really needed
reforms through, but it's been eye opening how completely stupid and angry a lot of Americans are. I wouldn't want his job. Yuck.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 10:33 AM
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70. It means he's freakin sell out
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 11:48 AM
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73. Who is Gibbs trying to fool? Please...............
On the other hand, then I hope that he does make the tough decisions that are needed when Congress finally presents him with the health care bill.

;)
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 09:25 AM
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78. At the rate he's going, he'd better be.
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