The fear of "public option" would disappear if they gave it a friggin name - SecureCare for example

You will get BUY IN! Think of all the idiots who don't know Medicare is government run health BECAUSE IT HAS A NAME!

"Public Option" sounds close to "public toilet" "public transportation" "public library" , etc. - nothing that engenders any warm and fuzzies. It's vague and boring and austere and scary all at the same time.

So give the freaking Public Option a name! Call it Americare or SecureCare or HappyCare or whatever, but start calling it something other than "Public Option".

Think of news conferences and TownHalls that suddenly start talking about:
"If you should ever lose your job, you don't need to worry because you would always have SecureCare as an option"

"If you're a small businessperson, wouldn't it be great to know that you and all of your employees will qualify immediately for Americare"


If you don't name it you don't own it. Right now the public option is a stray - people will pet it and feed it, but until it has a name they won't adopt it.

NT

into the pockets of overpaid private insurance CEOs"

Gotta do that before the repugs frame things to their advantage.

It's not a relabel it's a new label for a new product.

The repugs demonized "public option" somewhat to their advantage and that's why we should can that terminology.

Help everyone ~ options does not do it!

Me likes

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-Laelth

Could you make it into a Poll?

Maybe some can even give additional suggestions.

And -- What is a ABC way to say KEEP YOUR CARE that you have now
What about KEEP YOUR CARE?

or KEEP your OWNCARE :shrug:

Please help everybody -- this is critical.

You've got great ideas and suggestions.

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-Laelth

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-Laelth

All of the Options don't meet the ABC 123 test.

It's way too much to remember and way too much to understand so the Freeps win the day.

They just keep screaming NO HEALTH CARE BILL.

We don't have a slogan or anything that is snappy.

I Love President Obama but he should not have to give detail after detail and neither should anyone else.
__________________________________________________________________
EX: SECURE CARE for ALL Americans
or
YOUR CARE with the Provider that you choose
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Am I getting it right with that written above?

I'm so sick of all of the explanations and if I'm sick of it what is happening to the millions that only listen for some key words.

Please somebody ~ cut to the chase with the " Options!"

YES WE CAN.... make it simple!

They use it to bash him with it

They love America so much., let's see what it's like for them to Bash that one.

And it should have Medicare in its name. That way when people attacked it, they're attacking Medicare.

Expanding Medicare would be the best public option. Customer satisfaction high. Mixture of public and private-- medical services privately provided, between you and your doctors; payments and cost controls publicly administered, accountable to all of us.

We tried to make things easy for the insurance companies to compete the last time the public called out for national health insurance and they have had over ten years to prove their case and they have failed miserably. Costs soared and millions more people lost their coverage. 47,000,000 of our fellow citizens are left out in the cold.

We can't leave our fellow citizens uninsured and bankrupt any longer.

framing, negotiations, and worst of all, the August lull, has been abysmal.

It is as though they are trying to lose this one.

:evilgrin:

And like George Carlin constantly tried to get across, "You and I aren't in that club."

In return, Obama will get eight years to be in office, as I think this whole thing of Palin running in Oh twelve is the exact bargain that he has made with the devil. The Powers that be are very aware that 40% of us are more indie than they want us to be. So they have to have A Repug choice that will force us to even consider the third party candidates.

At least so far as the "public option" is concerned.

Go SECURE CARE!!

HR 676

Like, care for us. Or care for America.

Or U scare very easily.

The Democrats in DC, including our President do not want a public option, or else they would've pushed for one sooner and negotiated like people who want to win a negotiation.

All they're doing now is trying to show that they put up a fight so that when reform fails, they can blame someone other than themselves. Probably us.

That's what Lakoff said this week. The policy wonks are trying to do marketing. DAMN!

Hire Lakoff.

Hire a marketing whiz. Twitter the hell out of the new framing. Create a buzz.

The bill is lost for want of a marketer.

They called Hillary's effort Hillary care and she made the same elemental mistake of not branding her effort. It's NEVER TOO LATE.
America is really just waking up to the whole debate and there's plenty of time to win back some ground.

The only bad choice is allowing them to own the frames with Obamacare and the like.

That's one way to kill it without getting bloody hands.

:D

Many times intellectuals feel it is talking down to people to give them simple slogans and names they can wrap their heads around. Republicans long ago figured this out.

Even at his town hall meetings someone will ask a basic question and he will launch into a 10 minute detailed answer. This is great if you are talking to people in general with high a high iq. But average IQ doesn't mean "high," it means average.

Even most people at DU, I would venture to say, would respond in Obama's manner and believe it is condescending to use simple phrases and slogans, but it an essential part of leading a people.

You mean in his show several nights back.

This preppie in a Colorado town meeting says, "Hi. I am ____ and I am attending the Univ of Colorado at Boulder. If the government supports a public option, how can the private secter possibly compete with that?"

And Obama launches into this "Well, public option is not the totality of the program."

Then Jon Stewart as referree goes, "What? To-tal-ity?" I mean if you lose Jon Stewart, who is no dumbie, what does that say about what happened to 60 to 80 per cent of the people at that meeting. Why didn't Obama simply say, "Hey you are at a public universtity, but is your school putting the private schools out of business?"

Then Stewart shows how the Repugs sold a nation a war NO ONE wanted. They had three talking points "Saddasm Hussein bad." "Weapons of Mass Destruction." And then when they got desperate, "Mushroom cloud." Nothing got them off those three talking points and they got their war.

Stewart pointed out that everyone WANTS health care reform. He mentions that the Repugs can sell ice to the Eskimos, but the Dems can't even sell soemthing the Eskimos want.

After all, the Dems have made a bargain with the devil so that, as usual they will gum up the works and make it impossible for anything but an industry-favored piece of legislation to pass.

And don't tell me it wasn't planned that way.

Even his campaign slogans had longish (although compelling) stories that preceded them.

I believe they are pretending to be bad salesmen, and pretending to not know how strongly we support the public option, because they sold us out a long time ago, and weren't expecting us to pay attention.

Name one slogan.

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Obama's long and clear explanation of the public option at the town hall... the same town hall where a partial answer to the 2nd question on public option was played over and over again. You know the "just a sliver or aspect" line was used to show he was dismissing its importance.

I can't believe the media (and blogs) totally ignored that first answer.
People would understand it as part of the exchange.
as one option on the e4xchange
as fully funded by premiums, not the government
as being less expensive because of lower administrative costs, no profit motive, no big CEO pay
That lower rate would keep private companies from jacking up their prices because they would want to be competitive

and so on. A name would have made it even better from the start.
I don't know what fox says about it but even CNN says the governmewnt pays for it or expresses concern that the more people sign up for it the more it will cost and pressure the government.

The media at least doesn't choose to get that not having this option will mean higher premiums for everyone no matter what plan they choose, individuals, small business, and certainly taxpayers will be screwed. Since we want to subsidize those who can't afford premiums *whether they choose public or private plan on the exchange) if there is no public run option lowering the price the rising prices will mean higher subsidies

republicans are again protecting taxpayer money?

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Of course, you are assuming that the administration WANTS to win on this point, which I think is debatable at the very least.

Have you considered passing this idea to Dr. Dean and DFA?

that people are afraid of "public". That's them, the stupid fucks. AH the power of propaganda. It really does amaze me.

But yeah, your idea of the America named anything-because they LOVE America yah know, they just hate the government and anything that sounds like themselves.

You will cut thru every lie, exaggeration and idiocy with that one word. My blue-collar co-workers do not undestand the current debate, but they want medicare for everybody...mostly themselves... but c'est la vie, :shrug: whatever works.

Medicare for all.

What? You mean your against patriots and freedom?

Public Option
Employee Free Choice Act
Pro-Choice

I think we know what the hot button is: The freedom for Americans to make a different choice than the ones conservatives would make.

Who would dare vote against it? Unless they hated America or something...

What are the WH goons doing? It's as if they really don't want this.