Coburn tells crying woman at townhall that neighbors should help pay her husband's health bills

This disgusts me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3jwhLcW_c8
Govt. is not the answer...because our lovely cash strapped neighbors will help us!!! Thanks Tom.

Why don't YOU help your constituent?

Oh, that's right! You're one of those phony "compassionate conservatives"
:puke: :mad:

He could start the ball rolling by putting in a 1000 dollar bill.

It's called the "public option".

But they're selfish pigs going to bat for insurance companies that keep him in office. Unbelievable.

you said it right there "being in a society is all about."
Society and Socialism come from the same root.
Patriotic Republicans endorse anarchy. A social fabric means we're the same as the Soviet Union. Or is it Nazi Germany?
Well I'm not sure, but if the rest of the world is doing it, especially the French, Republicans are against it.
You see, we're all about freedom from responsibility for the wealthy contributors to the Republican jihad.:sarcasm:

That's why we need to be very specific when calling for a public option (and why I have refused to sign most petitions for a public option). Literally, all that is required for there to be a public option is that the government provide a competing "insurance company" to the private ones.

To constitute real reform, the public option must include (at a minimum):
*subsidies (everyone helping pay for their neighbor's health care)
*access (you cannot be denied coverage because you have pre-existing conditions)
*full coverage (your pre-existing conditions must be covered)
*no caps (either annual or lifetime)
*premium parity (everyone in a particular geographic region is charged the same - or at minimum the differences are not based on the health of the individual purchasing
*immediate start date (the current proposal starts with access for a very few starting in 2013)

AND insurance companies must play by the same rules (otherwise the public option will become the expensive dumping ground for the people no one else wants to cover).

If you can't afford it beg your neighbor. Repukes are evil. The new republican logo.

Friggin' unbelievable!

So did all those people clapping ante up after that Town Hall?...Did they all reach into their pockets and give that woman some money..any money? Anyone here want to bet she received zip from that lovely clapping group of idiots?

You can't reason with stupid I guess. I'm sure in that community there are many, many, many stories like that woman's and people would have to help not only her but dozens of others and just how would that work..just plain stupid. Not saying people shouldn't help each other out but most families right now have enough trouble helping themselves let along others.

Helping one another when you have people saying that they don't want to pay for people who don't pay for their own health care through their taxes yet they think instead they'll pay out of their pocket for a neighbor?...unless they feel the 'neighbor' doesn't deserve help or is the wrong color or whatever.

So are those clapping people saying they are ready to help with over 30 or 40 million uninsured..then why haven't they already been doing this?

that that woman should go home and become a BEGGAR in her neighborhood, the madder I get.

FUCK COBURN
FUCK EVERY PERSON IN THAT AUDIENCE WHO CLAPPED

I hope they each someday have to beg their neighbors for help.

How could they CLAP for that?

This country scares me.

Tom Cole (R-OK) town hall. I almost had a stroke and immediately had to bleach my brain with copious tequila.

It was absolutely horrendous.

For shame!

He's a global warming denier, a birther, and an all-around prick.

EDIT: There is a special place reserved in Dante's Hell for Coburn and all those like him.

The man is either a monster or a psychopath.

who have successfully sold the media and much of the country on the notion that "empathy" is an undesirable quality in a judge.

has a frikkin can with a sign raising $ for treatment for un/underinsured local children and adults. Never the over-65 crowd...but everybody else.

in her early teens. We had the crappiest insurance; we paid low premiums and basically got coverage only for catastrophic illnesses, so we paid premiums and still paid out the nose for healthcare. They had to pay a horrible amount for her daughter's care, and at one point she was told she needed a certain type of treatment. The insurance deemed it experimental and denied it. While they were fighting with the insurance, she and her family cleaned out pickle jars and left them all over the county trying to raise money to pay their medical bills. Then the insurance decided that it would pay for the experimental treatment but not for any care after that. It took getting the story out on the news and getting elected officials involved before the insurance decided to pay for the treatment and aftercare. The daughter lived about a year after that, but I'm sure her poor family will be paying for her care for YEARS AND YEARS. They also have other children with other illnesses and disability; I would hate to think what would happen if my friend ever lost her job; they would probably never be able to get insurance coverage again.

I wonder what will happen when there are so many pickle jars and fundraisers being held that people can't raise the money they need--what will we do then?

occurrence around here. I go to as many as I can, but this is no way to make health care available to everyone!

So you are her neighbor, Tom! So pony up and show us how it works!

Maybe everyone from his state should start sending their health care bills to him. Thanks for the help, neighbor.

After all, he is a friendly helpful neighbor, isn't he?

Send medical bills to Coburn's office with "CAN YA HELP ME OUT, NEIGHBOR?" written on them.

we just need to copy the media on some of the tougher cases.

In my case, my son's medical treatment would be covered in either Canada or the UK, but Blue Cross, Blue shield, no such luck.

So we are faced with letting him go through life with a life altering (but not life threatening) condition or taking out a second mortgage to cover the 100K total cost, which is the option we chose (and it's working great, btw). But if Tom's willing to kick in, I'm not going to say no.

Kber

he's the gander here, right? :shrug:

she got into a health care meeting with a facist running it?

Who pays into "the government." Who pays his "government" paycheck?

Why was "government" the solution for blank checks to Bush for Halliburton et al., but it is not "the solution" to turning our tax dollars towards improved healthcare.

Who here can/will go to their neighbor and ask them to help pay their hospital bills? Wouldn't Republicans then bash people who do so as asking for a handout?

If my neighbor came to me asking for help in paying their hospital bills, my heart would be in the right place, but my wallet would not be able to oblige, and I suspect my other neighbors would be in the same boat. Where would that leave them?

Coburn is a bona fide idiot.

The main reason for health care reform is so they people don't HAVE to beg their neighbors for help. And in the middle of a recession, those neighbors are less able to help.

It was always an option for this woman to begin with.

Coburn and his ilk offer nothing but MORE misery and pain.

They are as bad as he is!

They probably didn't have a whole lot of trouble packing the house with gun nuts and lolbertarians.

some sort of neighbor option... I'm struggling for words here.... what would you call it?

Um...erm...wait a sec...hold on....I'VE GOT IT!

It's a "pubic option!" What do I win? A car? A toaster? Citizenship in the European country of my choice?

;)

when anyone made such glaringly inconsistent and contradictory statements.

She should send the bills to Coburn.

This makes my blood boil!

and menace the repukes? If not, why not?

"Could I borrow a cup of sugar and $30,000 for my surgery?"

What's the problem?

to raise money for somebody elses' astronomical health care expenses. There is no end to it. Twenty years ago I knew of a family whose little girl had a brain tumor. They had insurance, but it only covered 80% of her 100K bills. So there were fundraisers all over town to help the family.

But what do you do when half the people you know are facing a situation like this? "Neighbors" don't have enough money to share.

Methinks if he had the strength right now (what with his dying of cancer and all) he'd tell you to shove it, asshole. Government money is paying for at least part of his care (I can't find any real mention of his costs, but finding plenty of right-winger stuff so I think I'll pass on their numbers... :eyes: ) and although wealthy himself, you can be DAMN sure he appreciates what good governance can do with the public's tax dollars.

he's such a friendly guy.

Let's reach out to him.

I am sure her neighbors are well trained health care workers. What good is having a health care system, if people are denied access to it?

It is clear this woman is beyond her limits, and requires help. Which death panel decided her husband wasn't worth the effort? And those bastards applauding in their selfishness, I pray you are never ever in this woman's situation...because it can so easily happen to you.

We need to be the change...We need to demand a public option. And people in Coburn's district need a new representative. And I need to find some way to relieve stress..these bastids make me want to kick a wall...!

Shit...what a heartless country we are becoming.

Proud to be an american????????????????????!

Just like the rest of the repukes.

Coburn is for single payer?

They just want other people to help her...

for some good old fashioned christian charity, Jesus-praisin' and bible-thumpin'.

and he does not have a solid understanding of government, either! the "Government" is "We The People", and as it says in the Preamble, government exists to protect the public welfare. I cannot believe he received applause from that audience!

Yup bipartisanship. Can't leave out "friends" on the right ya know. :banghead:

That's the way to do it.

The Right purports to be big boosters of charity, and many of them are (even excluding money to churches, which is often a Black Hole). The Right wants charity to substitute for entitlement programs, with Americans in need living off of the voluntary generosity of other Americans.

But many people on the Left, while not hostile to charity, and many give to charity themselves, are unenthusiastic about charity. Why? Because the Right celebrates charity as a worthy substitute for entitlement programs, while the Left feels that charity is demeaning to people in need ("we will help you because we feel sorry for you, and we feel you are a 'worthy' victim and you should be oh so thankful to us for our generosity") and that charity undermines the notion that certain things (in this case health care) are not commodities that should rely on citizens' generosity, but rather, basic human rights that we should all pay for in order to achieve a better society.

I must have missed that.

that line and that's where they want the neighbors to take care of each other.

Lets get this straight. It appears ALL the Republicans are raking it in from ins lobbyists. And plenty of Democrats. Then we have the caucus sharing sell out - Joe Leiberman.

Our Congresspeople are part of the government and they are selling out the other part of the government - us. About 60% of them have DECLARED WAR on us so they can keep getting rich from their friends.

Privatization imploding and they don't like it. They hate it. They hate us.

nominated for DU's Top 10 Conservative Idiots as well.

:argh:

can cost over $400.00 a month for which indeed most insurance companies do not pay. My son has been on a feeding for almost three months and since he's come home, insurance will not cover that cost. (Fortunately it looks like he's coming off that within a week or so!) But to think that neighbors are going to give this woman money to help pay her expenses is ridiculous. That's what all this fuss is about....people (obstructionists) not wanting to pay for someone else to be taken care of. Why can't Coburn and his ilk see this for what it is? A "I've got mine and you have to get your own" type of society. What a pitiful excuse for a man.

I'm pretty sure Coburn is the religious wacko that lives tax-free on some sort of Religious Combine (much like Waco), doesn't believe in birth control, and thinks people should pray away their ailments. He's one of the front-runners trying to get Howard Stern taken off the air, so Howard went on a rant about all the completely nut-job things this guy believes, but that was back in 2004, so I can't remember them all.

Oh, and whenever I see these "holier than thou" types, I always think of that video that was circulating several years ago of all the cars at gas stations that did the fill-up-drive-off thing (most of them had Pro-War, Pro-Bush bumper stickers and their American flags waving proudly as they refused to pay for the gas after driving the price of oil through the stratosphere).

Chances ae if she does call his office he won't be in..She will get a big run around. He had to agree to help but that dosen't mean he will. REPBLICANS SINPLY DO NOT GIVE A DAM, unless they are making a buck off the deal.

If I'd been that woman, I would have stood up and said, "Oh, and one more thing, Asshole. Thanks to you and your Republican buddies, all my neighbors are just as poor as I am."

guns and republicans.

entrusting our NHS to Cameron would be like appointing Henry VIII as a marriage councillor.

In the same Letters column, edited by Fiona Parker, is this Mirror comment:

"David Cameron claims the NHS is safe in Tory hands, but a new poll has revealed that most Tories thnk it has no future in its present form. Two-thirds want tax breaks for private patients and private companies to take over hospitals. You dont trust the Tory leader's assurances...."

One letter reads as follows:

"I am 89 and remember the joy I felt when Nye Bevan introduced our wonderful health service in 1948. In the past 10 years, I've had a hip replacement, prostate operation, hernia repair and my gall bladder removed.

Such was the aftercare that I was able to go on hliday to Spain just three weeks after my last operation. I look forward to a few more years yet, thanks to the NHS."

But it's great to hear Fidel commiserating with Obama's problems with the racist right wing there.

If you need any further proof that the GOP is in the pocket of the insurance industry.

with the title "Senator Coburn's health care plan".

Oh, and since WE pay for Coburn's health insurance, and WE are "the government" I wouldn't want him to think that WE are the answer to HIS health care needs. Cancel his policy immediately.

It just makes me furious.

Hekate

... caring for my husband, and here's his medical bills not covered by insurance. Senator Coburn says you will be glad to help us out. Feeding by tube takes place every 4 hours and involves flushing the line afterward, along with a throat swab to make sure the food has not backed up dangerously--aspiration of food is not pretty. Not long after one of the feedings he will need an enema and then a diaper change. Bathing once a day. Exercise and speech therapy are usually considered specialized skills, but Senator Coburn again says that my neighbors will be ready, willing, and able to help me with these tasks, so I must ask you to sign up for your share on the schedule. As for the ongoing costs, we are overwhelmed, but again Senator Coburn shows the way: you will help us out. Expect me to send my son door to door with a clipboard and an envelope in the coming week. For the time being I am only sending this letter to the people on our street, but I look for guidance once again to Senator Coburn to let me know how many other streets of neighbors I should be begging from. Sincerely, Your Neighbor."

an extra hot place in hell for everyone who clapped on that video, as well as Coburn.

the malice in these people's hearts is a marvel for the ages.

Everyone here who is so outraged will immediately do their part to make up for this wrong correct? Everyone here supports the public option so we should all just donate whatever we can afford to help this woman and her husband. Someone please let me know where we can send the check to help this woman. We can't expect someone else to, so lets get cracking.

(when properly administered and held accountable by the citizenry, that is)