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Becky72 Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 11:17 PM
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Did the New York Times just demand an investigation of George W. Bush?
Edited on Tue Aug-25-09 11:18 PM by Becky72
NYT editorial:

"The report offers one more compelling reason for a far broader inquiry into Mr. Bush’s lawless behavior. It is possible to sympathize with Mr. Obama’s desire to avoid a politically fraught investigation. But the need to set this nation back under the rule of law is no less urgent than it was when he promised to do so in his campaign.

That will not be accomplished by investigating individual interrogators. It will require a fearless airing of how the orders were issued to those men, and who gave them. Only by making public officials accountable under the law can Americans be confident that future presidents will not feel free to break it the way Mr. Bush did.


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/26/opinion/26wed1.html
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 11:19 PM
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1. It can wait two more months.....
.... until after the health care bill is passed.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 11:21 PM
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2. No, it can't. nt
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 11:29 PM
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5. Can too. NT
(now you know you just cant throw that up there without an explanation.) :silly:

........ so ........ yes it can.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 11:36 PM
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7. The ball is in motion. A prosecuter has been selected, he won't be
retracted.

It could take years, but it's not going away anytime soon. Thankfully.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 12:19 AM
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15. There will always be another excuse for putting it off.
:thumbsdown: like there was for not impeaching the fucking criminals.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 12:51 AM
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18. I agree with you on this. No, it can't wait.
Getting an investigation started Now will mean that the special prosecutor will only really be digging in by the beginning of next year, maybe. There is going to be a whole lot of stonewalling, and ignored subpoenas, and information is going to be dragged out inch by inch. If it doesn't start now it won't get any traction by the end of Obama's term.

It can't wait. It has to start as soon as possible.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 06:16 PM
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25. I also agree. Cant wait.
Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 06:16 PM by rhett o rick
Even if you call me a wacko.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 11:22 PM
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3. No, building the case cannot wait two more moths
never mind that it will take more than two months to build, rules of evidence and all that horse shit to take into account.

Wheels of justice go round and round and round, but do so at glacial speed.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 12:15 AM
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13. I wouldn't worry about that
if the case does broaden it won't for some time so I see no conflict with health care.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:09 AM
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20. We can actually do BOTH - SIMULTANEOUSLY!!! Really. We CAN!!!
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 06:36 PM
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27. NO it can't! We are a talented, inventive people, and we elected a talented man as President.
BOTH can happen! I defy ANYONE to make this into an "either/or" situation.

This is some of the strongest wording about investigating the illegal actions of bush*/cheney* we have heard yet from the Old Grey Lady. It is time...well past time!
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 10:36 AM
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29. I doubt that Holder and the special prosecutor will be derailed by health-care reform. n/t
I don't doubt, though, that whatever happens will take much longer than two months.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 11:27 PM
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4. Sounds like it.
and funny that it's gonna/would/will come down to cheney, with whom george hasn't been getting along so well 'recently.'
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 11:33 PM
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6. If this ever comes to a trial or confrontation/hearing...
Bush will scream like a pig that Cheney made him do it.

I hope the popcorn is still fresh enough for the occasion.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 11:36 PM
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8. Idiot son might have a case. nt
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 12:58 AM
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19. Wow! The New York Times finally acknowledges the Bush responsibility
after years of covering it up, delaying or burying stories about it at Bush's request, or denying it outright.

You can always say one thing about the New York Times, they can certainly hit hard, once the accusations have become common knowledge and politically safe.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 12:03 AM
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9. the judicial branch can investigate it Obama can get on with his other stuff
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 12:13 AM
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12. amen to that
let the prosecutor follow the evidence all the way to the top.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 09:11 AM
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22. That's why we have a judicial branch thankfully
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 12:49 AM
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17. True. nt
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 12:13 AM
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10. Yup. That's it right there.
Burning like a late summer brush fire.

Lotta smoke here, don't y'all think?
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 12:13 AM
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11. K & R
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 12:16 AM
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14. WELL DUH!!!!!!!!
"Only by making public officials accountable under the law can Americans be confident that future presidents will not feel free to break it the way Mr. Bush did."


:evilfrown: :eyes:


"It is possible to sympathize with Mr. Obama’s desire to avoid a politically fraught investigation."

Why? To be NICE? Because it's not CONVENIENT? Because Congress set the precedent of abdicating their sworn duties to the Constitution, so this POTUS has that same luxury now?


:wtf: is wrong with this COUNTRY?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 12:48 AM
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16. Well hallelujah! nt
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 06:26 AM
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21. K&R
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 03:25 PM
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23. K&R nt
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 03:37 PM
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24. K&R oh yes there should be an investigation of the entire Bush Admin.
Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 03:38 PM by nc4bo
Leave no stone unturned.

:kick:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 06:17 PM
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26. I Hope They Go All The way with This
with FULL accountability and consequences for the pukes!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 03:55 AM
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28. ASAP...The Truth must emerge....sooner the better
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 11:15 AM
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30. The truth has emerged. It's justice that needs to emerge.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 12:00 PM
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32. For Justice....the Whole Truth is Best...Clarity, Transparent, cards on the table, we need to preven
repeats....

Badness should not be allowed to repeat itself..For Gods Sake, its redundent
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:57 PM
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33. dazzled by cadence
forgive me
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 06:41 PM
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34. LOL...But of course :o)...its meant for those who could use it...peace
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 11:21 AM
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31. Wish I could recommend
Edited on Thu Aug-27-09 11:21 AM by mvd
I feel that this might gain steam slowly, but there will be justice.
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