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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:05 PM
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"As a mark of respect for the memory of Senator Edward M. Kennedy, I hereby order..."
Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 01:09 PM by Clio the Leo
From the White House....

Senator Edward M. Kennedy was not only one of the greatest senators of our time, but one of the most accomplished Americans ever to serve our democracy. Over the past half-century, nearly every major piece of legislation that has advanced the civil rights, health, and economic well-being of the American people bore his name and resulted from his efforts. With his passing, an important chapter in our American story has come to an end.

"As a mark of respect for the memory of Senator Edward M. Kennedy, I hereby order, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States of America, that the flag of the United States shall be flown at half-staff at the White House and upon all public buildings and grounds, at all military posts and naval stations, and on all naval vessels of the Federal Government in the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its Territories and possessions until sunset on August 30, 2009. I also direct that the flag of the United States shall be flown at half-staff until sunset on the day of his interment. I further direct that the flag shall be flown at half-staff for the same periods at all United States embassies, legations, consular offices, and other facilities abroad, including all military facilities and naval vessels and stations.

"IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this twenty-sixth day of August, in the year of our Lord two thousand nine, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-fourth."

Barack Obama

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Presidential-Proclamation-Death-of-Senator-Edward-M-Kennedy/
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:07 PM
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1. The State office building not far from here has not lowered it's flag
:(
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:25 PM
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5. Neither in Dallas TX, or Portland Oregon....
...as around 10 am Pacific time according to Thom Hartmann and listeners calling in.
So sad!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 02:09 PM
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13. the repubs don't care
Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 02:14 PM by merh

:argh:
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 03:11 PM
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21. Good grief - every office building, home and school in MA
has lowered their flags. WTF is wrong with your state office? (Sorry, not picking on you, didn't even check where you're from... just grouchy today I suppose.)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 03:19 PM
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22. republican governor
red state

:(
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 03:26 PM
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23. Sorry to hear that
And please forgive me for this but your governor is a jerk.

Although, if I'm reading Obama's declaration right, that flag better get to half-staff pretty quick. :) :hug:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 03:40 PM
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25. thanks for understanding
They get to play ignorant until tomorrow - I've called those who can make a difference and they said "he probably doesn't know" - they will probably have this corrected tomorrow.

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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 03:29 PM
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24. Are they required to do so?
I guess the wording could have been clearer, but I see the order incumbent upon all Federal buildings only.

"...that the flag of the United States shall be flown at half-staff at the White House and upon all public buildings and grounds, at all military posts and naval stations, and on all naval vessels of the Federal Government in the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its Territories and possessions until sunset on August 30, 2009."

Flying at half-staff might require a formal Governor's decree or something. Not sure if any State (red or blue) has done that.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 03:42 PM
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26. they aren't required to do much
what they should do out of respect is the proper context.
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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 04:24 PM
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28. Agreed! n/t
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robo50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:09 PM
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2. Very fitting... and now that the funeral mass has been announced as
being held Saturday in Boston, I guess Obama will have his vacation cut short to go to it...

Think of the police and security headache Boston will be this Saturday, with dozens of dignitaries from around the nation and the world...

I wish they would do the service in DC. DC is equipped for this sort of thing.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:11 PM
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3. Think of all the Bostonians who'd like to pay their last respects.
I think that's appropriate.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:28 PM
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7. Yeah, kinda selfish to think of
traffic at a time like this.
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robo50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 02:14 PM
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14. Of course, it is appropriate, and my selfish wishes to do it in DC are
just selfish. I think of all the overtime cops and Secret Service, and all that stuff.. but that's my background.

I like the idea of him lying in state at the Kennedy Library, for Boston and New England people to go to.. free, a museum, a place he had a hand in building.

The church for the mass is not the Washington Cathedral, in a cramped part of town... not easy access.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:16 PM
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4. Bad for us
We have a three hour drive into Boston to catch our flights out (my wife to Paris, me to Dallas).

I guess we had better allow a little more time.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:26 PM
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6. I fully expect it to be announced that he will lie state .....
.... at the Capitol by the time this is done.

The only thing that would prevent it of course would be the family's wishes, but I think everyone would agree it would be very fitting.

I think he should return home one more time.
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robo50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 02:15 PM
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15. Not going to happen...
He's going to be lying in state at the Kennedy Library in Dorchester, a part of Boston.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:35 PM
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9. Boston handled the DNC just fine
Give me a break :eyes:
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 03:08 PM
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20. His funeral belongs in Boston eom
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:34 PM
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8. this isn't normally done every time a Senator dies, is it?

frankly, i don't even remember when was the last time a US Senator died. Wellstone comes to mind, but that was YEARS ago...
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:39 PM
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10. Strom Thurmond, I think. And I don't remember if the flags were
lowered for him.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:41 PM
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11. Senator Kennedy was one of the three longest serving senators in the history of the
U.S. Senate. Furthermore Kennedy led and played a key role in passing some of this country's most important social and civil rights legislation.

I think it is the President'S prerogative to decide when the flags will be flown at half mast.
This occasion is significant and should be honored.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:46 PM
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12. ... how about ...
"... As a mark of respect for the memory of Senator Edward M. Kennedy, I hereby order, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States of America, that all citizens of this country are eligible for and will receive any and all needed medical and pharmaceutical care as directed by their physicians, without regard to insurance coverage, income, health history or employment status ..."


:shrug: It would be just that easy, Prez O.

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robo50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 02:16 PM
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16. I like the way you think!!! much ...
Better than lowering of flags for a few days!
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 02:16 PM
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17. No it wouldn't.
He doesn't have that authority via the constitution, that comes from Congress.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 02:35 PM
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18. Yeah and rescinded upon the election of a new President. n/t
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Saboburns Donating Member (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 02:46 PM
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19. No it wouldn't.
Thank Dog.

We don't elect Kings here.

We elect a President, head of the Executive Branch of our Government.

It's the Legislative Branch of Government who make the laws.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 03:55 PM
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27. Ever read a civics book?
Who would budget for that?
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 07:08 PM
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30. We just spent 8 years w/ an idiot who ruled by 'signing statement' ...
Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 07:08 PM by Myrina
:shrug:

... who cares about details like budgets or Constitutionality?
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 08:27 PM
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31. Are you for real with that question?
The President can't appropriate funds, for starters. Secondly, you're advocating that governing like Bush is okay when we do it?
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 01:20 PM
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32. No, i'm obviously not. where's everyone's fucking sense of humor?
:eyes: This place needs an enema lately.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 04:34 PM
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29. good lawd for teh stoopid
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