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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:57 AM Original message |
Obama And The Public Option: "I Want An Animal That Looks Like A Duck, Walks Like A Duck And Talks |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. Little boys and girls in heat, those Pubs |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. I want him to say " Yes We Can Have A Public Option!" |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
3. Thank you. NT |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
4. k/r |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
5. I wish our Dems would make Medicare the public option. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:05 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Don't Count That Option Out Just Yet |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
17. I'm still pushing for it. |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
46. I wonder if that hasn't been the plan all along; the "compromise" will be ... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
68. I've been wondering that myself, lately. The opposition is so fixated |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
59. The administrative structure is in place already=it will save $$. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Yep! |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Thanks. I have read that the single payer-which is Medicare for all has |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #67 |
76. The GAO is working on an analysis now... there's also this: |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
93. Thanks, I did not know for sure.....Who asked him? In the |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Anthony Weiner. |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. GREAT. thanks. |
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Froward69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
7. I sometimes wonder |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Yup, I'm Pretty Sure That Idea Is Being Considered |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
8. honestly, i would love to see a veto. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
9. Big push, right... So why is he still acting so wishy-washy on a public option? |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. You Call It Wishy Washy, I Call It Tactical |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. A false choice for what? |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. WTF Are You Talking About? |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Well we can disagree on tactics I guess. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. "I like this, but, maybe if you tell me something else, I'll go with that." |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. So I guess we agree, at this point... |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I'm Glad Obama Listens To His Own Counsel |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. I just want Obama to honestly tell me what he's doing. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I Bet You Want To See Everyone's Cards When You Play Poker |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
64. Of course I get what you're saying. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Yes, It's Normal To Be Worried |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. He has too many corporate people as his counsel. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Blah Blah Blah |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #49 |
58. It is hard to have an intelligent conversation with such comments. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. You Were Engaging In Intelligent Conversation? |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Keep your head in the sand. Bye for now. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Yes, Run Away! |
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ladywnch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #44 |
83. keep your friends close and your enemies closer |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #34 |
74. That's just the thing - he's NOT changing the goal, but what it is called. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Correct, He Can Do This Too |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
70. Heads, we win - tails, you lose. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Correct |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
10. Medicare for all who choose it is that animal. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
13. co-ops could fit that description n/t |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Show Me The Evidence |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Evidence? Since Obama is so nebulous on this issue, it's impossible to know what he's thinking. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Read The Fucking Posts |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I read the fucking post, and like I said, we can't know what Obama is thinking about co-ops |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. He's Told Me, You're Not Listening |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. My agenda? |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Your "Lightweight" Is My Master Tactician |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Well I donated many hours to Obama, many dollars |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. LOL! |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I used that excuse in my mind for the month of August |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Your Sense Of Timing Is Horrendous |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I think you're way overconfident in your own gauge on the situation |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I Think You Underestimate Obama |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. no, I was NOT saying co-ops can work like a public option |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Bullshit, Coops Have Been Floated For A While |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #31 |
51. I didn't know that he's insisting on a public option |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Your Stuck On Words |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #54 |
69. so he's not specifically saying only the public option meets his goals |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Yes, He Is, Pay Attention |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #51 |
77. He didn't say it was not central - he said that it wasn't the ENTIRETY of |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Yup, Making Sure People W/ Existing Conditions Are Covered Is ALSO A HUGE Part Of Reform |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
16. And What Would You Expect Him To Say If He Were Fleeing From A Public Option? |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Well, You Would See It That Way |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Perhaps You Can Answer My Question |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. What Would He Do If He Had Super Human Powers |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. I'm Guessing That You Don't Like The Answer |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. LOL! Your Question Is Idiotic And Deserved Only Ridicule |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
56. I Hope You're On PCP |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I'm An Asshole |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #23 |
78. I'll try this one - |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Don't Bother, That Poster Has A Clear And Obvious Agenda, He's A Hater Through And Through |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
32. Sounds like he's preparing us to accept something else. |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Yeah, I Know Some People Really Want To See It That Way |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #35 |
50. Like I said, I hope I'm wrong. That cynicsism is a callous formed by disappointment since 2006 |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Understandable, Use It |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #32 |
81. And I think that's bass ackwards - |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. I would love it if you were right. The presence of Rahm Emanuel and other DLCers in his cabinet |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #32 |
82. Forgetting the word "pushing" |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Uh oh. |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. The problem is while he's playing chess, the other side is using Ultimate Fighting tactics. |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. They are? Truly? |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
40. Tell me about it. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #40 |
53. LOL! |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #40 |
55. Ha! |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. If iot can get through the tangled web of republican lies, then we'll be down with our bad selfs. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #40 |
73. ... |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
84. I'll be calling, emailing, and will donate (as much as I can) for the... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
85. The way the Republic is set up, those Senators have a lot of power |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
89. Can this man refer to something clearly instead of making duck analogies? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. AFLAC! |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. I sure hope so!! |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
96. I am waiting for, "Yes, We Can, and DID." |
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