I can't wait until we stop arguing over whether the "democrats" will pass health care reform,

leftofthedial

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Wed Sep-02-09 04:35 PM
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I can't wait until we stop arguing over whether the "democrats" will pass health care reform,

Edited on Wed Sep-02-09 04:37 PM by leftofthedial

and start arguing over whether the watered-down corporate bullshit they pass is really "reform."

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grantcart

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Wed Sep-02-09 04:37 PM
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1. since you have already formed an opinion on the subject why don't you go ahead and start without us.

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cliffordu

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Wed Sep-02-09 06:30 PM
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10. Really, we can go argue about thyroid problems as root cause of

bipoolar illness, assboils and people who have me on their ignore list.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=222&topic_id=68387&mesg_id=68450

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CakeGrrl

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Wed Sep-02-09 04:40 PM
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2. Why argue? Sounds like you've already formed your opinion. n/t

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Cant trust em

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Wed Sep-02-09 04:41 PM
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3. "reform" is a term about as nebulous as "public option". nt

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DJ13

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Wed Sep-02-09 04:46 PM
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4. Aw cheer up

We wanted a nationalized health care system, so they'll give us mandated insurance coverage.

What more could we ask for?

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jerryster

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Wed Sep-02-09 04:57 PM
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5. Watching Hardball at the moment.

It seems to me that David Gregory and Ron Brownstein are basically saying that the Obama will tell Congress that the public option is off the table.

Translation: A party in the minority that has a whopping 21% of the electorate identifying with it will be told that they are in charge.

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emulatorloo

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Wed Sep-02-09 05:46 PM
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7. I wouldn't trust David Gregory if his tongue came notarized. n/t

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Jakes Progress

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Wed Sep-02-09 05:25 PM
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6. Already started.

Usual suspects. Some claim it was a fix from the start. Some claim it is manna from heaven.

Most of us know it is just the same old bs.

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cliffordu

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Wed Sep-02-09 06:02 PM
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8. And I can't wait till something passes so half the peeps here can call it

a failed attempt and a corporate sellout and further imply that McCain and Mooselini would prolly have done a better job.

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DevonRex

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Wed Sep-02-09 06:14 PM
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9. You started that already, even BEFORE anything is passed.

So, I guess you love to jump the gun.

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dionysus

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Wed Sep-02-09 07:23 PM
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11. left, i'm sorry we're not all as angry as you.

:hi:

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leftofthedial

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Wed Sep-02-09 11:41 PM
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17. me too.

Edited on Wed Sep-02-09 11:41 PM by leftofthedial

this place'd be much more fun.

and relevant.

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babylonsister

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Wed Sep-02-09 07:47 PM
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12. We should be arguing about why rethugs never even considered

promoting their own bill. That too should be part of the discussion, but it's not.

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Aramchek

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Wed Sep-02-09 08:15 PM
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13. you're a real 'Democrat', aren't ya?

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Jennicut

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Wed Sep-02-09 08:23 PM
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14. I know, lets not bother trying to do health reform...vote Obama out in 3 years, and get a Rethug in

to punish the Dems. THEN we will be all ready to do reform again, right?

As someone with a pre-existing condition who wants at the very least that to be the health reform bill I want something...anything passed. I have more to worry about then how pure Dems are. I want a bill THIS YEAR.

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jenmito

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Wed Sep-02-09 08:38 PM
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15. Why do you have "democrats" in quotes? n/t

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leftofthedial

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Wed Sep-02-09 11:40 PM
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16. because calling them Democrats would be an insult to those who held

actual Democratic Party principles, those like McGovern, Kennedy, Wellstone, et al. The Democratic Party was taken over by neocons at the same time as the repuke party. They call themselves "DLC" or "centrist," but they're really neocons.

And "democrats" excludes the few remaining Democrats in national office.

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