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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:20 PM
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Should We Oppose Any Effort To Outlaw Post-Claim Rescission If No Public Option?
Post-claim rescission is the practice by insurance companies to revoke coverage after a person has paid their premiums based on an often unrelated inaccuracy in their insurance application. For example, person is in an accident, gets seriously injured, but the insurance companies then revokes coverage based on the failure to disclose treatment for acne.

If there is no public option, should we oppose any efforts to outlaw this practice in order to keep up pressure of single payer down the road?

What is the best approach tactically?
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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:23 PM
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1. Outlawing that sounds like something the insurance companies wouldn't like...
I don't think the current Congress could get behind that.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:27 PM
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2. Look up the Swiss system... all private, all highly regulated
they want to play that game. well the swiss regulate all including payments for procedures, fees and all that.

Oh and the corps make SOME profits, but nothing as insane as they do here. Funny, some of our companies work in Switzerland too. Perhaps the German system, also highly regulated

Of course our bought and paid congress....
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mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:28 PM
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3. Don't outlaw recision
Just pass a law that if an insurance company decides to drop coverage because of an error on the application, they have to pay back all the premiums plus interest, AND they have to cover the current issue since they did not notify the insured of the error previously. Actually, I wonder if a class-action lawsuit could get through on the basis that the insurance companies defrauded customers by willfully accepting money beforehand.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:51 AM
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13. Paying back someone 7k over 10 years is still on 70k dollars and wouldn't cover serious
...injuries.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:29 PM
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4. Well, there's a mouthful to rally around.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:30 PM
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5. Why not have Rahm ask the insurance companies what would be acceptable to them?
Wouldn't want to ruffle the feathers of any big contributors, now, would we? Max Baucus and that whole crowd need to get re-elected, ya know
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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:30 PM
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6. That would be good too but...
how do people with pre-existing conditions get health insurance that is affordable? How do our businesses become competitive in the world again if they are still responsible for their employee's health insurance?
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:56 PM
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7. Some States Only Allow Post-Claim Recession If The Error Is Directly Related To The Claim
This would be a great improvement in that it helps ensure that if you have insurance that you actually do have insurance, rather than a worthless piece of paper with the insurer relying on some innocuous error some day to revoke your coverage when you need it most. However, this still falls far short of a public option. So, do we call a moratorium on any reforms short of medicare as a public option?
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shimmergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:35 AM
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8. Failing a public option,
we need to sneak in some poison pill provisions that any insurance company that receives govt. subsidies has to adhere to a whole list of limits....so onerous that they'll eventually want to get out of the health ins. business.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 01:00 AM
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9. What we should outlaw
Is ANY insurance company, hospital, clinic, or pharmaceutical company operating as a for-profit business.

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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 01:53 AM
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10. No without public option we should be looking regulations to add
rescission is already of the thing both the house and senate bills.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:20 AM
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11. There will be a solid Public Option or there will be NO reform. House
won't pass anything with that stripped out. Count on it.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 09:49 AM
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12. YES!!! The HCI's will go bankrupt in less than a decade if that can't recede
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