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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:11 AM
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Remember when you were a kid?
And you'd ask your mom for something and she'd tell you to go ask your Dad and he'd tell you to go ask your mom and it went on for a while like that?

I feel like that's what Axelrod and Obama are doing to us right now.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:12 AM
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1. So what role does the media play in this......
Any? :shrug:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:19 AM
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3. A huge role.
And a great President and a great staff learn to control the media. That's just a fact. I'm not saying we're done. I'm not saying we won't get a public option either.

But this message has been muddled and I'm hoping to see a strong speech from President Obama when he addresses Congress just to clear the waters.

This is not a trash Obama post, this is me, being confused and expecting more from my elected officials. I'm not saying I don't like Obama, I am saying the jury is still out for me and the verdict must be for a public option.

That's my watermark. And I love to see our President come out and say the same thing, and then deliver.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:51 AM
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15. We are also dealing with pure unmitigated hellish creepy assholes with
LOTS of money behind their astroturf "faux-tests". We have to have time to get the votes in congress. Which means we have to have time to counter this BS in the town halls etc. He has to stay alive while all this happens. It's "hard work"....for someone who actually works. Just my 2 cents there :hide:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:05 AM
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18. I agree. It is hard work.
That's why we sent him there. But if this doesn't come out the way we would like then who gets the blame? The media? The moneyed interests? No. In the long run, the Democratic President and the Democratic Congress will get the blame because it's their job to do the right thing.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:42 AM
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20. Yep. Plenty here are already giving him all the blame. I think that is dead wrong.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 01:41 PM
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21. And I want to go on the record to say that I'm not blaming the President.
It's way to soon to react in that manner. I'm willing to wait and do my part with email and vigils and we'll see what we come up with.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 05:08 PM
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22. I'm with you asdjrocky!
:hi: :kick:
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:15 AM
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2. The solution was to say to Dad, "Mom said yes."
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:20 AM
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4. Think that will get us a bill with a strong public option?
Which one is Dad and which one is Mom?
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 07:25 AM
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17. Then, you go back to Mom and say, "Dad said yes."
so it doesn't matter which is which. They both think the other said yes so they both give in.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:21 AM
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5. Yeah, that's when you went over their heads to Nana...
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:23 AM
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6. You had a Nana?
Gee, I bet you had a pony too.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 11:27 PM
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23. WTF is your problem?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:23 AM
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7. I remember my sisters lying to me
and telling me mom and dad had said no before I ever had a chance to ask them anything.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:23 AM
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8. I learned never to
ask for anything. That way I wouldn't be disappointed, because my parents nearly always said no. Didn't matter what it was or how reasonable it might have been. They would say no.

I'm starting to feel like that - like I shouldn't have even bothered to ask. I should have known the answer would be no.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:27 AM
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9. You just made me so sad.
Of course you can ask. Gosh, I want take you to the fair and buy you some cotton candy.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:33 AM
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12. Oh I suppose
they meant well. I was an only child and they were always afraid something bad would happen to me.

Well, they got their's when I became a teenager. For them I must have been the teen ager from hell.

Maybe that's what we all need to be - teenagers from hell.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:40 AM
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14. You know,
if you ever have your own teenager, they pay you back for everything, and I do mean everything you did.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 01:00 AM
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16. Oh they did!
They are now 30 & 32. They survived and so did I. I'm glad I didn't find out until years later everything they were up to. :scared:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 10:08 AM
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19. Mine has too.
She's made it to her sophomore year anyway, and I'm so proud of her. Says she's going to be a Veterinarian, can you beat that?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:28 AM
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10. You don't have enough faith in our president. You think Axelrod is
pulling a Cheney? Ugh.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:32 AM
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11. Shame on you sister.
You're not being fair and I always expect that from you. Where did I say I had no faith, in fact, if your read my response to FrenchieCat you'll see that's not at all the case.

Are you trying to hurt my feelings?:hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:39 AM
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13. Pshaw.
I've read your posts all the live long day today, rocky.

You are Mr. Negative, I'm Ms. Corrective. Or Ms. Optimism. And now the Sandman is calling me!

Sweet dreams, asdjrocky.

:fistbump:

And keep the faith!
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 11:39 PM
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24. My kids try it already...Mommy NEVER gives in. Okay, sometimes I do.
But is Axe the Dad and Obama is the Mom, or is it vice versa....
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