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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:59 AM
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Perhaps, just perhaps, oh, no, maybe, golly gee darn it!
Okay so I'm thinking, and yes that can be dangerous.

When I read a quote this morning wherein Gibbs says the President is not going to threaten a veto, I got to thinking a little differently about things. I don't know why that kicked me in the head, but it did.

Let's say that everything in the bill from the House that we like, except a public option, is passed by both House and Senate and arrives on the President's desk. Do I really, I mean really, want to deny those that will be safer and more secure with those rules, just because I'm one of those 45M uninsured? Am I really that selfish?

Man, I just don't know the answer to that just now. But crap, I'm thinking about it.....
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:12 AM
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1. You wouldn't be being selfish. You'd be the victim of selfishness.
There's no reason not to include a public option except greed and fear on the parts of the insurance companies and the senatoadies that support them.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:19 AM
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2. Any bill wihtout a PO is a giveaway to big insurance
IT'll be the biggest transfer of wealth in history, bigger even than Bush's.

And every cent that goes to line the insurance company CEO pockets comes from the working class.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:30 AM
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4. That isn't necessarily true.
There are key factors in the bill to assure that at least insured people aren't denied coverage. That one cannot be stuck in a job for fear of losing insurance coverage. That one cannot be removed from coverage after a condition arises, and so much more along these lines.

Is it truly okay for me to want the President (not Congress, now I'd totally hold Congress responsible with majorities that can't stand up and get the job done), but the President to actually veto a bill that does some of these really important things?

I recognize that I'm a victim, but should I be so selfish as to want to see that others that might no longer be at risk, stay at risk when their issues will be covered?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:23 AM
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3. Honey, you can't make someone hit you.
This is a classic case of the victim blaming themselves.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 12:41 PM
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5. Then you will be REQUIRED to get PRIVATE insurance. Get it?
IMO, it should be a PACKAGE DEAL.

Without the public option, with ONLY the requirements to buy private insurance, they're getting paid for their cake and them getting paid to eat it too.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 01:04 PM
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6. That won't hold up in court. I mean really, one cannot be forced to pay for no reason than being
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