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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:27 AM Original message |
AP distorts Axelrod's comments, Axelrod fires back |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. AP sends the lie across the world ... |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
2. The AP is a right wing tool owned by RWers. Not surprising they twist words around. |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
3. Rhetorically and grammatically, "p.o. would be a valuable tool" is very WEAK. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Your hyper-parsing is very WEAK. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. I think the reading skills demonstrated by the poster above are quite good. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. "Rhetorically and grammatically"? You're not objective, you're pissing in the wind. Axelrod: |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Your optimism, if such it is, is not merited by the facts in this case. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. "Optimism"? A fact could slap you in the face and you'd pretend it didn't exist. n/t |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
48. And yet, you continue to deny against any and all evidence |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. Will we get a strong public option or not? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Exactly |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Obama is not responsible for people with AP-level comprehension. n/t |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. The administration is responsble for their rhetoric |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. "they have every reason to know how they're going to be spun and misrepresented." So |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. you apparently aren't responsible for your own reactions. The Mediawhores lie and you prefer |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Look- the corporate media is a given |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. "Either the administration displays the competence to deal with it as it is" So dealing with it |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. You may not want to accept it- but the administration's been incompetent |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. "They've not only lost control of the debate" is that why the media spin |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. The Obama admin MUST know how this stuff is going to be "spun" |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Dumb. |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. Exactly. They will make a case for it, but it will be negotiable - that says it all |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. And yet, a few loud voices continue to hold their hands to their ears |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
6. Ron Fournier. nt |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
7. GOOD! n/t |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
12. I think Obama already backed off |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Wait because you think it, AP is correct? |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. no, AP is incorrect |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. Calling the public option a sliver of reform and putting out 'whether we get it or don't get it' |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
51. They are words of concession. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. I have to agree with those who say this is weasel-wordy |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Axelrod was clear. It's not his job to preempt Obama's speech. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Oh, I appreciate that he's saying Obama supports a public option |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Because they, unlike YOU, are in the position of actually having to accomplish something. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Hey, nobody supports them accomplishing something more than me |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
20. AP: White House: public health care plan is negotiable |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Did you read the OP? Axelrod fired back at the AP for their distortions in that article. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. umm yeah, this is just another example. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
23. Yeah, and we have duers spreading |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
26. K&R |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
29. Axelrod himself refused to commit to support for a public option |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I agree, anyone who saw that interview must have gotten that he was weaseling. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Not anyone, you. n/t |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. take your fingers out of your ears, stop chanting la la la la, |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. You do know that Axelrod's comment in the OP came after the interview, don't you? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. What do they care..they would put a major crick in their |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. It seems you are just trying to shut all discussion and criticism down. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. You know how to use a dictionary? n/t |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. You a just a megaphone! |
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WyoHiker (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. OP, did you watch the MTP interview before posting this nonsense? |
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WyoHiker (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. I see that you did and I stand, somewhat, corrected. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
41. lol - today Politico is gospel |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. LOL, |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
42. The public option is non negotiable. |
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NYC Democrat (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. because veto threats are a really bad move when you are trying to push a plan just ask Bill Clinton. |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. And the result of not telling the truth |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
52. You are now using POLITICO as a source to counter AP article? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Axelrod's statement is Politico's? How about |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-07-09 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
59. Here's what I take from Axelrod's statements |
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