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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 01:56 PM
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Anything other than a comprehensive, UNIVERSAL public option is not a "public option"
It would be best be termed a "useless sell-out".
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 01:59 PM
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1. what you said
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 02:04 PM
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2. mister "state the obvious" speaks his amazing, one-of-a kind epiphany
yeah...whats your point
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 02:08 PM
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3. Good luck with that one. That's never, ever, what anyone suggested it would be.
You might as well say that any President Obama who isn't Dennis Kucinich is not a "President Obama".
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 02:17 PM
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5. Do you have some brand-new definition of what a "public option" is supposed to be?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 02:36 PM
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7. The public option is a federally operated insurance plan, not a universal coverage plan.
And if you select it as your plan and you're working, you'll pay premiums.

I'm surprised that you can get the two confused.

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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 02:49 PM
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9. I was never confused over the two
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 02:51 PM by brentspeak
"Universal" means "available to anyone". Hence, a true public option means a gov't operated insurance plan universally available to anyone and everyone -- not just a few very poor individuals.

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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 02:15 PM
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4. So the public option isn't important to you in the bill since it is less than single payer?
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 02:15 PM by stray cat
we might as well not fight for any type of public option as it is meaningless?
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 02:19 PM
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6. No, any "public" option that isn't universal is meaningless because it's not a public option
What does single-payer have to do with this? Do you understand what a "public option" and "single payer" are supposed to be and how they differ?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 02:51 PM
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10. brentspeak doesn't care about people getting actual help
He cares about avenging the assault on his pride that was Obama's overwhelming election victory.

Any purpose other than that one is foreign to his way of thought.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 09:07 PM
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12. dude must chug lemon juice for breakfast...
:shrug:
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 02:37 PM
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8. Vote - there's a poll below of "sell out"
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 09:07 PM
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11. brent, i give you perserverance points for being so bitter, for so long.
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