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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:12 AM
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Call and email Pelosi NOW. UnitedHealth gives her a fundraiser as she backs off the Public Option
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 09:56 AM by joeycola

Call and email Pelosi NOW. UnitedHealth gives her a fundraiser as she backs off the Public Option

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Forum Name Latest Breaking News
Topic subject EXCLUSIVE: UnitedHealth Lobbyist Announces Pelosi Fundraiser As She Begins Backing Off Public Option
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4055649#4055649
4055649, EXCLUSIVE: UnitedHealth Lobbyist Announces Pelosi Fundraiser As She Begins Backing Off Public Option
Posted by kpete on Fri Sep-11-09 11:06 PM

Source: Open Left

EXCLUSIVE: UnitedHealth Lobbyist Announces Pelosi Fundraiser As She Begins Backing Off Pub Option
by: David Sirota
Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 17:47

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for the first time yesterday suggested she may be backing off her support of the public option. According to CNN, Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid "said they would support any provision that increases competition and accessibility for health insurance - whether or not it is the public option favored by most Democrats." When "asked if inclusion of a public option was a non-negotiable demand - as her previous statements had indicated Pelosi ruled out any non-negotiable positions," according to CNN. This was also corroborated by the Associated Press, and by Pelosi's own words, as quoted in those stories.

This announcement came just hours before Steve Elmendorf, a registered UnitedHealth lobbyist and the head of UnitedHealth's lobbying firm Elmendorf Strategies, blasted this email invitation throughout Washington, D.C. I just happened to get my hands on a copy of the invitation from a source - check out this OpenLeft exclusive:



From: Steve Elmendorf (mailto:steve@elmendorfstrategies.com )
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:31 AM
Subject: event with Speaker Pelosi at my home

You are cordially invited to a reception with

Speaker of the House
Nancy Pelosi

Thursday, September 24, 2009
6:30pm ~ 8:00pm

At the home of
Steve Elmendorf
2301 Connecticut Avenue, NW
Apt. 7B
Washington, D.C.

$5,000 PAC
$2,400 Individual

To RSVP or for additional information please contact
Carmela Clendening at (202) 485-3508 or clendening@dccc.org

Steve Elmendorf
ELMENDORF STRATEGIES
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS SOLUTIONS
900 7th Street NW Suite 750 Washington DC 20001
(202) 737-1655



Read more: http://www.openleft.com/diary/15066/unitedhealth-lobbyist-announces-big-fundraiser-for-pelosi-as-she-backs-off-public-option



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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:14 AM
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1. Pelosi needs to publicly deny the fundraiser.
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 09:15 AM by Avalux
Can you imagine if she did? Would be fantastic and she'd get gobs of support from the American people. I'd even donate to her.

Thanks - I will contact her office.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:20 AM
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3. I will not hold my breath. But just emailed her again to ask that.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:16 AM
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2. This doesn't sound like she's 'backing off" the public option:
Pelosi on President Obama’s Health Reform Speech: ‘The Time to Act Is Now; And We Will’

Washington, D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi released the following statement tonight after President Obama addressed a joint session of Congress on the urgent need for health insurance reform:

“Tonight, President Obama made a forceful case to the Congress and the country for long-overdue health insurance reform. We are closer than ever before in history to real progress on this issue that touches the lives of every American and impacts our economy: ensuring stability and security for Americans with health insurance, and affordable coverage for those currently without.

“Members of Congress heard the President’s address tonight after weeks of lively discussion in their districts. The input of Americans informs our debate and makes clear still the work before us to explain these reforms. But as the President said: the time to act is now. And we will -- on behalf of our constituents, our health care system, and our economy.

“Among the bills that are moving forward in Congress, there is broad consensus. All of these bills meet the principles President Obama laid out tonight that reform must lower costs, ensure that Americans cannot be denied coverage because they get sick, and provide access to affordable health care for all. Now we will work toward consensus on reform that will make us a healthier America, and do so in a fiscally responsible way. And we will pass this legislation this year. Those who oppose reform and support the status quo are only helping to bankrupt our economy and middle-class families.

“President Obama was clear tonight that a public health insurance option is the best way to create the needed competition that will lower cost, improve quality, and preserve choice for all Americans. An overwhelming majority in the House of Representatives agrees. And the President challenged those who oppose this common-sense approach—or worse yet, distort its actual role in reform—to bring forward their own ideas that will achieve lower costs for Americans, promote competition and keep the insurance companies honest.”

http://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/pressreleases?id=1344
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:29 AM
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4. And this,
from the OP, is a distortion...

When "asked if inclusion of a public option was a non-negotiable demand - as her previous statements had indicated Pelosi ruled out any non-negotiable positions," according to CNN.


of what she a actually said:

Q: Madam Speaker, are there any non-negotiable demands that you have for this legislation" And in particular, is a public option that you have long supported one of them?

Speaker Pelosi. Well, what the President said last night is what he has said over and over again. He thinks the public option is the best way to keep the insurance -- well, he said originally at the summit the best way to keep the insurance companies honest, to increase competition so that we can lower cost, improve quality, expand coverage, and retain choice. If you like what you have, you can keep it.

If somebody has a better idea, put it on the table, that's what the President said. Well, in the month of August, while people were complaining about the public option, they only put on the table -- they hit us with their best shot: distortion, misrepresentation, and obstruction.

So, so far, we haven't seen a better idea, but it could be there. So this is about a goal. It's not about provisions. As long as our goal of affordability and accessibility and quality, meeting the four -- which you don't want me to repeat again -- goals that we have in the legislation, then we will go forward with that bill.

Speaker Pelosi. But you never go -- I don't think you ever really go into a negotiation and say that some things are non-negotiable. One of those would be that we not pass a bill, and that seems to be the goal of many here. But as the President said, the status quo is not sustainable.

It's not sustainable for individuals. It's not sustainable for businesses. It's not sustainable for our economy. And it's certainly not sustainable for our budget. And the cost to Medicare and Medicaid and -- and their -- the increased cost will take us so deeply into debt, we must pass a bill that is paid for, at a certain limit, establishing priorities, that bends the curve, that lowers cost as we go into the future.

link


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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:12 AM
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16. Pelosi refuses to see the facts
She says "I don't think you ever really go into a negotiation and say that some things are non-negotiable." Which is a lovely concept, but such lovely thoughts only work when you face others who are negotiating in good faith. When the other side is in fact going in with pre-set provisions they refuse, not taking a stand is simply allowing their side to be stronger. They refuse to negotiate about a public option, she refuses to stand firm on it, they win, effortlessly.
She's saying she will bargain things away, they are saying they will not. They have the correct tactic in this case. Weakness is a losing position in negotiations, always. Always.
Most Americans never have to negotiate for anything of importance and lack experience in negotiations. I've hired reps to do that for me since I was 19. They get paid well. Very well. Most Americans get told by what they call 'the boss' what they will be paid if they want a job. Some of us have desired skills and can ask for more than they wish to give, and we know how to get the best deal. Hat in hand is not the way to do that. Not in my actual, vast, lifelong experience with negotiating with hard core rivals. My opinion is based on actual experience, with actual money on the line. Not theory, but actual bankable knowledge.
If Nancy were my lawyer, she'd not be my lawyer. She'd have been fired many long months ago. Because I'd want the best deal I can get, not just the best the buyer wants to give, for pete's sake!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:15 AM
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19. She also said
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 10:15 AM by ProSense
If somebody has a better idea, put it on the table, that's what the President said. Well, in the month of August, while people were complaining about the public option, they only put on the table -- they hit us with their best shot: distortion, misrepresentation, and obstruction.

So, so far, we haven't seen a better idea, but it could be there....

Which is a strong defense of the public option. So everyone twisting this simply have an agenda.

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:29 AM
Response to Reply #19
23. My agenda is Single Payer. Without discrimination
And my experience with negotiations is long and deep. I do not agree with you that those words are a strong defense, not nearly as strong as her rivals who scream 'no public option'. She's letting her fear show. Her office expected 1-3 million anti-reform marchers today. Were they close?
You can not seem to make a point without baseless insinuations about others, which is an indication that your own position is weak and you do not know how to defend it. If we were negotiating now, that comment would be the thing that let me know I would be winning everything in the end. Policy discussions and business negotiations that drop into the gutter of personal attacks and questioning the good will of others do so for a reason. It is funny that Nancy sees the GOP as good faith negotiators. Laughable.
When others ask you about your background, the experiences that make up your opinions, you go ballistic with name calling. But you question the motives of others without a thought. The need for a double standard, two sets of rules of engagement, is again, a sign of weakness, it is the smell of blood in the water for those of us who know how to negotiate, or discuss. Name calling and adjective heavy insinuations are not the tools of an honest or strong writer.
So, in short, I'd love it if you were my rival in negotiations! My people would eat you alive for breakfast!
Every dime I've ever made has been negotiated with difficult opponents. Again I ask, what is your experience in that area?
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #16
20. The WH and dems in congress started out weak by
putting single payer under the table. It is been downhill ever since.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:01 AM
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24. And they need to go take notes from people who live or die
by negotiations. Many do. They are not close to alone in having to make difficult agreements with people they will have to continue working with. That is common. The world would stop turning if everyone was as cowed and aimless as some of our leadership.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #24
33. Maybe if the world stopped turning momentarily, it would wake some up-Perhaps.
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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:32 AM
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5. My e-mail to Speaker Pelosi:
Please say it isn't true that UHC is giving you a fundraiser and you appear to be backing off your stand for the public option. When is enough, enough??? Here is the money that the CEO of UHC has made on the backs of policy holders who have been denied coverage time and time again.

United Health Group
CEO: William W McGuire
2005: 124.8 mil
5-year: 342 mil

I am beginning to believe that all of Congress is in cahoots with the insurance industry. Congress is willing to ignore the American people for large contributions to their campaign coffers. If this isn't true, then you need to stand up and tell us you will not accept this fundraiser. Until I see that, I will believe that you are two faced and speak out of both sides of your mouth.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:39 AM
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6. Thank you for the information and for the email you sent.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:42 AM
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7. You really don't care that the OP is a distortion of what Pelosi said, do you? n/t
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:43 AM
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8. I do not believe it to be a distortion.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #8
11. Of course you don't
I have to assume that you have either comprehension problems or a deep desire to ignore reality.

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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:09 AM
Response to Reply #11
15. And I assume your rose colored glasses are on once again.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #15
17. Is that what recognizing distortion is called now: rose-colored glasses? n/t
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 10:17 AM by ProSense
edited extra word.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:14 AM
Response to Reply #17
18. Only when you use them.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #18
22. Then maybe you should use them.
:rofl:

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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #22
31. I am not into delusions.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:52 AM
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9. She "backs of the public option"; I take that to mean she backs it. Great news!!!
Well, not news really.

She backs the public option, still.

:donut:
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:57 AM
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10. Thanks for the tip on the spelling error. Much appreciated.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. You're most welcome...
That's how I roll.

:P
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:01 AM
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13. My Message to the Speaker:
No public option + Fund raiser by United Health Care = America has been sold to the highest bidder.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:06 AM
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14. well said. Thank you.
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SWr Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:16 AM
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21. i wonder
What they are serving?
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:54 AM
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25. So fucking typical.
:grr:
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:18 PM
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26. This is a false report. She's issued a statement.
I read it here, but do not have a link. Teh google, teh google.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 01:27 PM
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27. It is a little early for Nancy to be backing off.
I believe The Plan calls for her to back off once the Bill is on the floor.
Then she can go back home and say "Well, I fought for it."

In 2006, Nancy Pelosi parlayed her seat in The House into a seat at the Rich Man's Table.
She has never looked back.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 01:43 PM
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28. There's the address...sure be a shame of a mob of protesters showed up.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 01:56 PM
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29. You're chicken little and the sky is always falling
Pelosi has never said anything she backs away from. She said impeachment was off the table and we sure put pressure on her about that and she never backed off. Whether we like it or not she sticks by what she says.

You just like to be as negative as you can. Enjoy it while it lasts for you.
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 03:03 PM
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30. Ah, yes. Human Rights Campaign gives Pelosi a fundraiser,
or the American windpower Association, or Microsoft, or any of the other 30+ companies and organizations that Steve Elmendorf's firm has as clients.

http://www.elmendorfstrategies.com/clients.php
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:36 PM
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32. hope she's got more integrity
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 10:37 PM by amborin
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