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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:44 AM
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(Updated) Telling protest: two million
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 11:04 AM by ProSense
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:46 AM
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1. "Our government has lost sight of the powers they were granted,"
Does anyone know what that even means?
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:47 AM
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2. Let's drop a
net over the crowd and haul them away to mental health clinics where they can get the psychiatric help they so desperately need.
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:48 AM
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3. "I'm not your ATM" - man, that's harsh.
Those right wing terrorist teabaggers are so FUCKING CLEVER!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:49 AM
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4. Bush voters saying, "Trade Freedom for Security...You Will Have Neither".
Interesting.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:50 AM
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5. I don't even get what they are saying with that Pelosi poster
Anyone? Or is it just more wing-nut madlibs?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:20 AM
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8. It's a collection of words and pictures
meant to signify something only they can understand. Let's just call it outsider art.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:32 AM
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9. possibly the best and only reason to be found for that
it boggles the mind
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:34 AM
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10. Right wing PR guys know they're being called out for Astroturfing
The funneling of millions of dollars into "genuine grass roots" groups that have "been around for a long time now" (just coincidentally dormant during Republican administrations) has been tracked and followed up on by Rachel Maddow and some other reporters.

Fake grassroots campaigning is called Astroturfing. So Gingrich and Luntz know they need to demonize that term quickly, before everyone knows what it means. The amoral right wing PR firms that stir up the fear and hatred for a fee need to be sure their pawns, genuinely riled up citizens helped along by Brooks Brothers Rioters, identify the term "astroturfing" as just another smear by Bad Bad Democratic Woman Nancy Pelosi.

She said at some time that the storming of the town halls waving racist signs and other ridiculous accusations, getting Medicare patients to shout down government healthcare, reminded her of Nazi tactics, I think. She later apologized, I think.

So Gingrich and Luntz types who "help" the "genuinely concerned citizens" can link the serious criticism of astroturfing with the regrettable Nazis comment, and make it all into "liberal garbage." They probably have a 50/50 mix of riled up regular folks and professional agitators-- I mean, "dedicated GOP members volunteering heir help." So they can say to the regular people-- look, those Democrats are saying you're just astroturf. They don't respect you !

They don't want too many people looking seriously at the critics reporting about the corporate funding that supports those groups, and the talking points issued by right wing PR firms to make the demonstrations more disruptive. This summer's anti-help-with-healthcare-expenses town hall disruptions got lots of private insurance funding through the amoral right wing PR groups.

Now Old Energy corporations are "helping genuine grass roots groups" send out fleets of "Energy Citizens" to declare their opposition to curbing US carbon emissions. More astroturfing is on the way because this summer the private insurers managed to divert the discussion from the many ways in which our Pay-to-Play system has failed, and onto ridiculous rumors and slander. That was an amazing success for them. We could have spent weeks talking about the pain and misery millions of our citizens endure. Instead, we were ushered into discussing death panels and helping "illegals." If Old Energy can get people riled up with energy rumors, they can divert the discussion from just why it is critically important that we reduce our carbon emissions and how to do that in the most equitable ways.

Will the astroturfing against cleaning up our atmosphere and preventing its further deterioration talk about "The government wants seniors to freeze to death?" "Back yard barbecues will be banned!"

Or will enough reporters broaden their stories to discussing the corporate funded professional PR firms that stir up dangerous fear and hatred, so they can be disarmed and allow us to debate the best ways to address current environmental crises?

Most of us are not like the lunatic fringe. We don't want to bring on The Rapture. We want to work with our president to build a green future as quickly as possible to prevent the further acceleration of global warming and reverse it, if possible.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:44 AM
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11. I get that part...
I still have no idea what it has to do with Pelosi or Nazis though
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:59 PM
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16. Nancy commented on seeing swastikas on the Town Hall Disruptor posters
and the right wing had a field day-- "She's accusing us of being Nazis!" If you Google "Pelosi nazi statement" you can read the right wing hysteria on the topic. I remembered the storm in a teacup vaguely and did not want to click into any of those right wing blogs to refresh my memory.

Nancy may also have commented on the Astroturfing. Gingrich and Luntz types can lump that together with the "she called us Nazis" hysteria, as just another smear by that Baad Democratic Leader, to minimize its importance.

Right wingers can pitch any comments about astroturfing as "those damn liberals doubting the sincerity of the protesters," to divert any serious discussion about how much corporate funding goes into the right wing PR groups that "inspire and support" those teabagger and town hall disruptor groups.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:53 AM
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6. Looks like 30,.......dozen to me.
:rofl:
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:56 AM
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7. I actually like the "Chicago-syle politics" sign. I'd change 'no' to 'yes'
and change the picture, but I'd carry that sign myself!

Yes to Chicago-style politics of Obama and Emanuel! Hell yes!
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obama196186 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:46 AM
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12. did two mill
show up
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:53 PM
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14. no. maybe a couple of thousand.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 01:51 PM
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18. Hell no. Obama has a far bigger crowd in Minneapolis.
So what else is new?
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:07 PM
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13. As a native Chicagoan who lives in South Carolina...
That "Chicago-style politics" sign that imbecile is toting around just cracks me up! The notion that politics are any better here in the "red states" is absolutely laughable.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 12:53 PM
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15. protest attendance fail
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insanity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 01:07 PM
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17. Our signage is better
When will the right learn that liberals have a monopoly on protest slogans (also intelligence)?

The outrage over deficit spending is laughable (remember their hero Ronald 'shoot missiles with lasers from space' Regan?), the tactic the right has taken in regards to health care is deplorable, and the people who gobble that shit up and feel so compelled to protest are grossly mislead by a bunch of hacks and/or plain stupid.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 01:53 PM
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19. Someone needs to call them on the "tens of thousands" bullshit!!! n/t
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 01:54 PM
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20. Following then on twitter is fun. They keep saying 2million but
dcfireems says 65,000.
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