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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:10 PM
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Why don't the Democrats organize a march on Washington?
Don't you all think it's about time Obama supporters and health care supporters organized a march on Washington as a show of support? This health care legislation is crucially important. We shouldn't just sit back and expect the President and our legislators to do all the work. It's for us. Maybe the support just isn't there. Maybe we don't deserve health care reform. Because right now the Republicans are defining this health care legislation for too many Americans based on lies and if we don't do something about it, it will go down in defeat once again. I don't understand why this hasn't been done already.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:11 PM
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1. You must have missed Obama's speech today. HC is definitely not goin down in defeat. nt.
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:30 PM
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7. Personally, I think "Don't worry about it" is the wrong attitude.
The Republicans have already forced more compromises than we would like, so don't just say don't worry about it. We need the right health care bill and we should be helping Obama achieve this goal. After all, it's for us.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 05:05 PM
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14. I never said anywhere, "don't worry about it." My point was that amidst all the GOP chaos, I remain
extremely confident that we will pass a HC bill by the end of the year. That does not mean I don't believe we shouldn't hold their feet to the fire on their bogus claims or that we shouldn't be out en masse showing our support, it simply means that based on watching Obama the past week, I personally have no doubt that HC is going to happen.

My bad for not including enough in my first post to better make my points. ;)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:31 PM
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22. I did miss it -- to whom and what did he say? Thanks! nt
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Maureen54 Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:14 PM
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2. they have
For tomorrow.September 13th march for health care, but I've seen very little about this...kind of discouraging. I still plan to attend
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:34 PM
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9. That deplorable.
To have a march without letting everyone know about it does more harm than good. If the rightwingnuts can get more people to come to their march than those of us who support Obama and this health care legislation, it makes those in the middle tend to side with the right. We need a real march. A serious march. Something that everyone interested will know about and be able to decide if they can do it or not. I never heard about a march on the 13th and I'm pretty well informed.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:43 PM
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26. Who organized it? Will it be in DC?
You know, we don't have a media personality -- like Limbaugh -- that EVERYONE listens to. Maybe that's how they get them riled up and get the word out.

And thank you for attending! :pals:
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georgian style Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:15 PM
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3. We have to make some noise, I agree
Being right is the first step, but I think that progressives should also go out on the street more and tell the world about the Republican lies that make passage of the reform bill more difficult.

Count me in.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:19 PM
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4. the media ignores rallys on our side that have hundreds of thousands of people
unless it's the inauguration.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:20 PM
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5. About 8 or 9 years ago, 1.1 million people marched in D.C. for reproductive rights.
The media ignored us. Simply ignored us.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:23 PM
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6. We don't have a media stranglehold like the Nazis do
so,

1. We can organize like they do, and
2. Even if we did, there would be a media blackout
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:30 PM
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8. Oraganize? That smacks of UNION activity!
Today's Democrats are respectable people and want to be seen as such by their peers in Wall St. and the Pentagon.
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:35 PM
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10. Whatever
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 04:59 PM
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11. We are too busy sitting around arguing about how we know more
than this President, and how all he has to do is get mad and everything would fall into place.

It is hard to yank folks away from pounding on those who are actually trying to make a difference in the right direction......cause after all, only the perfect will do.

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 05:03 PM
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12. There are tons of 'Democrats' who don't like other Democrats
enough to march along with us. They are afraid we might carry signs for equality, or peace, when they are in favor of discrimination and escalation.
Read DU. Tons of 'Democrats' use the same words about actual liberals as the right does. "You far leftists" and that kind of thing. Those posters do not want to march with the riff raff, the gays, and most certainly not the poor. They spend their time calling out liberals, just as Rush does. They will be in church tomorrow, listening to sermons against my family. Just like the baggers will be.
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:13 PM
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19. So what's your solution?
Surrender?
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 05:04 PM
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13. Because it takes someone to do it!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 01:38 PM
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32. There have been big demonstrations all over US..I was at one in NC State Capitol
three weekends ago. It was huge...close to a thousand people. Got a few seconds of coverage on TV...more in our newspaper but not enough. And, the people interviewed for TV were 3 to 2 the representatives of the 60 TeaBaggers who demonstrated across the street.

It's the media...it always has been. They refuse to properly cover Peace Events and Democratic Action events.

Coalitions for Health Care in NC and one of the Churches sponsored.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 05:23 PM
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15. Here's your chance....
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 05:52 PM
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16. We had a march in November 2008
Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 05:52 PM by Raine
when we marched to the polls and voted the Democratic Party into the majority ... the problem is that we still act like we we're the losers and we're being treated that way by the rePUKElican rabble scum and we seem to be accepting it! :argh: :mad:

edit: typo
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showpan Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 07:24 PM
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18. I think we should march, but not for health care
If this economy doesn't turn around soon and more jobs are created then the health care issue, as a priority, is ridiculous. It needs an influx of money now. Money that could be spent on greater priorities. Repeal NAFTA and tax those companies that have moved our jobs overseas. Stop giving billions to the corporations that have screwed us and rebuild America with massive public works projects. The stimulus plan, like all trickle down economic plans, do not work. This has been proven how many times?
It seems to me that we are skirting away from the bigger issues just like the tea baggers do.
Don't get me wrong, something needs to be done about health care, but not as big a priority right now as creating jobs for the millions out of work including myself.
At least I just started collecting unemployment.
What about the 1.5 million who are running out now and still don't have a job? Since they won't be counted into the unemployment rate, they will claim that unemployment is holding steady....lol...the plan is working....just like the tea baggers did.
..oh great, I have health care coverage, but I can't pay into it because I have no job, no home, no money, a wife, two kids, a dog and a couple of cats. I wonder if we'll all be able to camp out in our government payed for emergency room when we become homeless in a few months?
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:17 PM
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20. If we don't get health care done now...
...we might not ever get it. It just might be deemed politically impossible. We've got a Democratic President and a majority in Congress and the President ran on health care reform as a top priority. If we don't get it done now it will be considered politically radioactive. Health care is the #1 issue NOW.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:50 PM
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17. There was a group of doctors going across the country to support
healthcare reform (not necessarily Obama's plan) and I have seen no coverage so far of their trip. I think they will get to DC in October. Anyone know?
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:43 PM
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25. Colorado, tomorrow
Rally for Health Care Reform
> Sunday, September 13 , 2009
> 4:30 - 6:30 PM
> Civic Center Park, Howes and Laporte Streets, Fort Collins
> the event will
> feature local physicians,
> musicians Kathryn Mostow and Bill DeMarco,
> street theatre and skits in addition to the touring doctors.
>
>
> The Mad As Hell Doctors road tour is a group of Oregon doctors who are
> traveling to Washington, D.C. in a caravan
> to demand that Congress enact a single payer health plan that will provide
> quality care for all Americans. As they
> travel they are holding public rallies to express their indignation with
> the failures of our costly health care system.
> They are hearing peoples’ stories inspiring the movement for true reform.
>
> Sponsored by the N. Colorado Chapters of Physicians for a National Health
> Program and
> Health Care for All Colorado
>
>
> Monday, September 14 CAR POOL to the Capitol in DENVER for a Noon - 2:00 PM
> Rally with Mad As Hell Doctors.
> Call Linda Sherrod 970-420-2413 to make plans to meet at NW corner of
> transport/community parking lot, I 25 and
> Harmony.
>
>
> Showings of "Health, Money and Fear" , a documentary produced by
> Paul Hochfeld MD, one of the MAH Doctors


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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:24 PM
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21. Even if we had the same amount of people show up for the
Innauguration the media would not cover it.

We had 3,000 people show up in Seattle Pro-healthcare and our own local media didn't cover it.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:40 PM
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24. I was there -- and I just posted in another thread that I have no idea how
many people showed because I couldn't find any coverage anywhere! So 3,000 is impressive -- thanks for that.

When I complained about it, PatSeg told me I should have bitten off someone's finger -- THEN we'd have gotten at least a mention!

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:52 AM
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29. Thanks for going Gateley!!
It's unbelievable isn't it?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:37 PM
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23. I was thinking today (hearing/seeing about the anti-Obama coverage) if
we could even get that many people to show up and march. Here we are (on DU) laughing at them because ONLY 25,000 - 50,000 attended? That's impressive. We seem to lack the fire and all-out frothing-at-the-mouth commitment. I often wonder -- where are all those people who showed up for the Inauguration?

I'm with you, don't understand why we don't have the fire in our bellies that they do. :shrug:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 10:43 PM
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27. The Democratic Party doesn't organize mass marches and movements.

That's not what they do.

That's what the Republican Party is now beginning to do .... for the first time.

Large segments of the Republican Party are now trying to build a reactionary mass movement and use it against the Democratic party and elected representatives of that party. That is new.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:22 AM
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28. You are assuming that the Democratic Party Leadership...
...actually wants to change the Status Quo.
Their financiers (owners) wouldn't be happy if they did,
but its OK to put on an act, and then give up.


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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:47 PM
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34. Very Sick & Kind Of Sad To Admit What Is Happening! Seems Like The
consensus here is that because Obama isn't fighting back, or taking a stronger stand, that it shows he takes THE HIGHER GROUND! He doesn't need to jump into the fray because somehow in the end, his silence will be to pull the proverbial rabbit out of the hat!

If this is the case, I really wish I could see it SOON!! Meanwhile, as time goes by I get worried-er and worried-er!!

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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:58 AM
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30. We need the media to help organize, the fact is the majority of citizens
want and need valued health care and the ability to use the media to get the message out for a call of arms so to speak is definitely needed simply because regardless if even a million people turned out demanding health care the media would not give such the coverage it needs to ensure our voice is heard loud enough and far enough to Finlay make a difference in how government deals with our wants and needs and not the few select..

President Obama has told us from the beginning..he cannot do it alone..if we want it, we need to work for it with him...people keep forgetting that fact...
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:14 PM
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31. It's hard to work up people's enthusiasm enough...
Edited on Sun Sep-13-09 12:20 PM by burning rain
to march in favor of healthcare reform, when the proposals have been negotiated behind closed doors with lobbyists and industry bigs--which shows that the administration is not interested in popular input in the process.

Not many ordinary citizens want to serve as cheerleaders for political leaders who clearly don't value their voices, but only wish to use them as smiling props.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:51 PM
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35. Again... Another Person I Totally Agree With! Now... Since I Don't See
much really happening, I'll go back to the US OPEN!! At least they'll be a clear winner or loser there!

Djocovic or Federer?? Del Potro cleaned Nadal's clock, but Rafa is a GREAT guy! Still I was rooting for DelPo!! Nothing against Rafa, just a change of the guard!

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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 03:13 PM
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36. total fail, your taking M$Ms word for your claims with little to no proof
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:24 PM
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37. O fell blow! I am undone!
Sped through with the junior high rapier wit of "total fail" and media-denial. If media report it, the opposite must automatically be true!
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:40 PM
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33. that would require doing something other than whining
about Obama.
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