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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:47 AM
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Dave Lindorff is either a racist or an idiot

Dave Lindorff: In Praise of Joe Wilson, What's Wrong with Calling Out Liars in Congress?

Liberals are acting all righteous and offended that a member of the Republican opposition, Rep. "Joe" Wilson of South Carolina, would deign to besmirch the "dignity of the presidency" by calling out "Liar!" in the middle of President Obama's address to a joint session of Congress on Wednesday evening.

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Whack-job or not, Rep. Wilson did the cause of democracy and honest discourse a favor when, faced with a statement he felt was clearly false, he found he couldn't repress the urge to call the president a "liar." In doing so, he put a much-needed ding in the wholly inappropriate and dangerous imperial aura of "respect" that has grown like lichens around the office of President. No more than anyone else in this nation, a president should have to earn the respect not just of the members of Congress, but of the broader public. He or she is another citizen, no more and no less, and when a president, such as President Obama in this instance, dissembles, exaggerates or attempts to deceive or mislead, it is healthy for democracy if he is called out on it immediately and publicly.


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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:51 AM
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1. My guess is the latter. NT
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:53 AM
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2. i'll take moran for 500 alex.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:03 AM
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3. Why not both? nt
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:18 AM
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7. My sentiments exactly -- Let's try to be flexible (nt)
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:03 AM
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4. Not mutually exclusive...
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:07 AM
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5. He's a leftier-than-thou, lefty-left purist. Fuck'm.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:16 AM
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6. Since...
...I see absolutely no evidence that he made any racist statements - I must stick with idiot.


So....is this how it is going to be? Insinuating that every asshole that is opposed to President Obama is that way due to racism?

Did you all forget how nasty these assholes were during the Clinton years? They accused them of rape, murder, insider trading and treason.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:22 AM
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9. "Insinuating that every asshole that is opposed to President Obama is that way due to racism?" Well,
assholes who praise known racists earn the association.

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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:54 PM
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12. I see...
... a lot of love for the ONLY person in Congress that was a high ranking member of the Klan in one of the most racist states in the country around here.

Just saying...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:24 PM
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15. You're comparing Wilson to Robert Byrd? n/t
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 04:59 PM
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17. Byrd publicly rejected those beliefs a long, long time ago.
I don't see these RW losers doing that.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:22 AM
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8. Both.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:24 AM
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10. I saw that and couldn't believe it. I think he craves attention. And is an idiot. nt
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:25 AM
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11. thanks for posting. it was good to have the lies from Obama's
speech laid out like that for easy reference. I would never have seen this article otherwise :hi: :thumbsup:

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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:19 PM
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13. honest discourse?? Wilson was WRONG!!
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 01:20 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
What the fuck is Lindorff talking about?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:24 PM
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14. Hmmm, did he denigrate the "respect" while Bush was in office
Probably not.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 04:57 PM
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16. If he's a Republican, he's probably both. n./t
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