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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:02 PM
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I would like to hear the reason why these Democratic Reps voted against the House Resolution Bill
Don't you,

Dems voting against reprimand Wilson:
Arcuri
Delahunt
Giffords
Hinchey
Hodes
Kucinich
Maffei
Massa
McDermott
Moore (WI)
Taylor
Teague

I am actually appalled by Denis Kucinich voting against this bill.

Why Denis??? :shrug:

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:07 PM
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1. Could he have wanted something stronger??
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:09 PM
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2. That doesn't make any sense. He already knew nothing stronger would be done.
Yet he votes nay on even this. For shame.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:10 PM
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4. Cannot understand why any Democrat would vote against it.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:11 PM
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7. Neither can I. nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:10 PM
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6. At least one of them is more than happy to settle for nothing, if they can't get everything.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:11 PM
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8. It's very childish, isn't it? nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:27 PM
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16. Nah - *I'M* childish. He's downright unpresidential.
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 07:28 PM by BlooInBloo
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:30 PM
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17. Yup!
it's about making sure he knows his place, down boy!
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:10 PM
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3. People always make that excuse for them
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:10 PM
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5. Here's Hodes' statement...
"We need to work together as Republicans and Democrats to craft a bill that seeks to lower costs, increase quality of care, and put families back in control of their health care. In my judgment, it’s time to move on and I do not support this resolution. We should not allow Mr. Wilson’s reckless conduct to overshadow the need to work together to craft a strong health care reform measure that gives Americans lower costs, more choice, and real control in a fiscally responsible fashion.”

http://hodes.house.gov/
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:12 PM
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9. complete crap
This censure has absolutely nothing to do with health care reform. What bullshit.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:17 PM
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12. That's taking disingenuousness to
a new height.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:22 PM
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13. Thats what surprising
this bill did not have the bite it needed yet these Reps decided to vote against it.
What type of solidarity is this??

Stupid of me to even asked that...I know, should know better. :banghead:
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:53 AM
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38. that's why there is no point in compromising with the republicans or trying to give them what they
want. they went through this with the stimulus bill!! they watered it down and gave the republicans what they wanted and the republicans STILL voted against it!! the republicans aren't interested in voting for anything... they just want to make sure the bill is shitty and then if it passed, it will be a useless bill and they can say.... see, we told you.... It baffles me why they keep fucking trying to work with people who have no interest in doing anything. bipartisan only works when both sides want to reach the same goal.... the republicans only goal is to make the dems look bad and try to make the dems lose seats. and for some reason the dems keep waling right into that trap. someone had likened it to lucy holding the football and promising charlie brown she wouldn't pull it away this time.... but she ALWAYS pulls it away!!
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:13 PM
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10. There is no excuse.
I'm thankful for Rep. Clyburn and those who voted yes, including the few republicans, stood up for what is right.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:15 PM
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11. So many people up in arms when john aravosis falsely reported
"Obama Blasting Dems" when they wanted justice on joe wilson..I would think everyone wants to know why?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6545399

I plan on asking my "bluedog" congressman, Michael Arcuri.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:24 PM
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14. Know what,
I don't see how his statement can be seen as him blasting Dems, besides, he doesn't have to make the
call, he needs to stay out of it and let the Dems fight his corner.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:33 PM
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19. That's why I said "falsely" and in the thread..I call out aravosis as a
liar.

The left lies to sensationalize..I never thought I would say that until I discovered it on my own.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:40 PM
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20. I know you did Cha
I was calling out to the so called journalist who twisted his comment as an attack on Dems.
We all know he has to stay above the fray, the man is not stupid...blah... anyway, get
my point....B-)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:51 PM
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22. Totally
get your point, HutzB-)
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:24 PM
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15. email and ask or check their web site
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:31 PM
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18. e: fuck it, not worth it.
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 07:31 PM by Arkana
*sputter*
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:47 PM
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21. Um... maybe because only a sack of crap would have voted for it?
Why would anyone vote against some stupid two-bit totalitarian-wannabee grade school nonsense that is quintessentially anti-American.

That kind of jerk-off neo-Soviet twaddle is what Republicans spent about 90% of their time passing the entire 12 years they held the House. It's what assholes do.

This isn't a fucking monarchy. If someone wants to call the President a liar, so be it.

I've been doing it most of my life.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:55 PM
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23. What bullshit. Anyone who voted to reprimand an asshole is a "sack of crap"?
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 07:55 PM by ProSense
When the hell did reprimanding someone become something that only occurs in a monarchy? Utter bullshit.

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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:47 PM
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26. Even the dim deserve a chance at education, so since you asked a question...
"When the hell did reprimanding someone become something that only occurs in a monarchy?"

Hmmm... did you leave anything out? Let's try this:

"When the hell did reprimanding someone for barking some disrespectful nonsense at the national executive become something that only occurs in a monarchy?"

Throughout history it's fucking quintessential of a monarchy.

But of course I didn't say such things ONLY happen in a monarchy. Such shit happens in all sorts of non-monarchical totalitarian states, Republican-run Congresses and some democracies who prefer, for whatever reason, to maintain some monarchist and/or fascist trappings.

Disrespect for the president is as central to American civilization as popular elections.

a) you think this is always right, which would mark you as some sort of authoritarian nut, or b) you think this is right when a Democrat is president, which would mark you as as some sort of partisan authoritarian nut. Take your pick.

(The fact that the House has a rule doesn't mean a thing in the context of my criticism, BTW. It's is implicit in my critique that I think the rule is anti-American crap... which I do, because I am not an authoritarian nut.

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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 01:06 AM
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36. What???
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 01:11 AM by Hutzpa
Disrespect for the president is as central to American civilization as popular elections.


I hope you are not referring to the House because if you are then it is total hogwash and my
guess is you probably hoped no one caught it....What?? Since when?

Oh Well, since Obama became President it is ok to disrespect him as President in the House
of Congress, so you do have a point....:evilgrin:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:10 PM
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28. The only thing that is a "sack of crap" is your
post.

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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:20 PM
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29. wow, the bot program speaks
the sad truth is, you are speaking from a very peculiar spot on your body....Sir.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:06 PM
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24. After 2006 elections, when Nancy had to sit behind the idiot and smile at his speeches
I wish so much that she whapped him upside the head with a rolled up copy of the constitution, everytime he said something stupid (every sentence). I wished brave Democrats existed in the crowd to shout his ass down, while his lies killed thousands monthly in Iraq and sent the middle-class here packing. I wished then that dissent was alive and well, despite any rules made to suppress it, so that the truth be heard. And I wish today the necessary evil of Wilson making an ass out of himself can be balanced in times of need by Democrats with a backbone speaking for the people.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:40 PM
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25. Maybe he didn't want to make a martyr out of that asshole, and maybe
he has respect for free speech, regardless of how offensive it might be.

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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:59 PM
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27. Could it be that the entire idea is a waste of time...
when there are more important matters to be working on??
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:25 PM
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30. what like health care?
Guess you didn't get the memo that the repubs were sitting that one out.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 04:28 AM
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37. If it was a waste of time, why did they bother to show up and vote no?
It would have taken the same amount of time to show up and vote yes.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:29 PM
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31. I think Barney voted against it too
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:37 PM
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32. Barney voted present n/t
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:41 PM
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33. ahh
kind of a cop out.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 11:11 PM
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34. Maybe they agreed with the President
They should have let it drop and worked on ISSUES.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 11:49 PM
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35. Right
a position the Republicans took, why not work on ISSHEWS...:rofl:
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