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Indigent Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:48 PM
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Barack Obama was opposed to Wilson rebuke (Americablog)
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 08:36 PM by Indigent
Americablog (9-14-09): "“See, this is part of what happens,” Obama said, when asked about Wilson by interviewer Steve Kroft on Sunday’s “60 Minutes.” “I mean, it just becomes a big circus instead of us focusing on health care.”

http://www.americablog.com/2009/09/obama-blasts-dems-in-congress-for.html

CBS reported:

"Kroft asked Mr. Obama if he thought the House should rebuke Wilson.

The president chuckled and said, "But see, this is part of what happens. I mean, it becomes a big circus instead of us focusing on health care." "


http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/14/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5309389.shtml
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:49 PM
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1. It wasn't a censure.
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Indigent Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:56 PM
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9. Thanks. Change the word to "rebuke" since it isn't clear whether Kroft used the word "censure"
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 07:57 PM by Indigent
I can't find transcript, and Americablog did not use "censure" in the passage I quoted either. Thanks for the observation.

CBS doesn't make things clearer, since it does not say what word Kroft used:

"Kroft asked Mr. Obama if he thought the House should rebuke Wilson.

The president chuckled and said, "But see, this is part of what happens. I mean, it becomes a big circus instead of us focusing on health care." "

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/14/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5309389.shtml

Does anyone have a link to the transcript?
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Indigent Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:43 PM
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34. Now confirmed. Kroft used the word "rebuked"
video of that segment of interview: http://www.videosurf.com/video/obama-on-heckler-this-is-part-of-what-happens-it-becomes-a-big-circus-instead-of-focusing-on-hcr-78453887?t=74

And several news outlets refer to today's move as a "rebuke."

Washington Post: "House Votes To Rebuke Wilson for Interruption"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/15/AR2009091502943.html

Even in DU we read: "Wilson rebuked by South Carolina Republican"

"http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8655679"
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:50 PM
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2. Unrec. That's not what he said and it's disingenuous of that hideous
blog to say so.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:55 PM
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7. "hideous blog?"
hmmmmm.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:57 PM
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11. Do you think this piece of made-up stuff is accurate? It's not the
first time either, so I have just about as much patience with this blog as I do with politico.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:01 PM
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13. I think of Drudge and Free Republic as "hideous"
Americablog, like Kos, TPM, Pam's House Blend, is a progressive site. While I sometimes disagree with things I read at any liberal blog, I don't think they're "hideous."
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:07 PM
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14. Sorry you don't approve of my vocabulary. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:08 PM
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15. Yeah, Hideous..is when you lie to sensationalize..I don't
care if it's left or right. aravosis lied. I saw the interview.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x371065

"Obama blasts Dems in Congress for wanting to censure Joe "You Lie!" Wilson"
by John Aravosis (DC) on 9/14/2009 12:30:00 PM
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:10 PM
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17. you guys don't like him because he's been critical of Obama
that's your prerogative.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:13 PM
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19. No, we don't like him because he lies, blatantly. nt
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:17 PM
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22. that's a matter of opinion


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:21 PM
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25. It's either lies or not..it's not opinions..but if
ya got your eyes closed then there are none so blind as those who will not see.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:26 PM
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28. Deciphering the meaning and intent of what politicians utter is opinion.
now swear at me some more. It's kind of fun.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:42 PM
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33. Yeah, I imagine it
is for you.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:45 PM
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35. well
it would be more fun if you were a little more creative about it.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:14 PM
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20. Maybe it's because he's playing the part of
a fucking idiot.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:54 PM
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37. I wondered where I had seen that name before..More Stupid by aravosis..
"Olympia Snowe is playing Obama like a fiddle"

by John Aravosis (DC) on 9/13/2009 05:30:00 PM

"Check out this quote from GOP Senator Olympia Snowe today. Snowe likes to portrary herself as a "moderate" Republican, even though she rarely sticks up for anything other than what her party tells her to. Note Snowe's language. Telling Obama to give up on the public option, but not offering anything in return other than the possibility of "building consensus."

Snowe, who has proved a reliable collaborator with the White House, said Obama should just give up on the public option in favor of building consensus and "

What a big creep.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:19 PM
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23. You like him in spite of his of lie because
he bullshits on Obama.

Fucking obvious.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. yes, the world is black and white
and your characterizations of everyone you disagree with are always absolutely correct.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:24 PM
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26. Black or white? Lies and distortions are black and white. No one sort of lies. A lie is a lie.
Aravosis is an asshole.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:25 PM
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27. Pay attention to your own fucking words...that were being replied to..
"you guys don't like him because he's been critical of Obama
that's your prerogative"
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:28 PM
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30. it is your prerogative
And that's my OPINION. Rage on.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:50 PM
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3. waaaaaahhhhhhh!
They wish President Obama would whine about racist freepers and teabaggers! He's blasted no one!

Wilson is a piece of shit! suck on that!
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:50 PM
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4. The House reprimanded Wilson. They didn't censure him.
He deserved it anyway.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:50 PM
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5. And what would you want him to say? He needs to avoid adding to the circus
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 07:52 PM by Windy
atmosphere. At least his comments isolated him from the house,otherwise, this would be talked about for weeks. And the issue was still taken care of by the House. P.S. That blog is often inaccurate.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:54 PM
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6. But see, on yesterday's thread about this, Obama was derided as a corporate tool who didn't want
his Republican buddies being reprimanded. But now, all of a sudden, voting no is OK.

Not only that, there is a difference between being for it/against it when the question is whether or not they should censure and the actual vote. I was against tackling the subject at all because I thought it a waste of time and would be a rallying cry for Reps. But once they actually went ahead and started the process, I thought that they had damn sure better finish it.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:55 PM
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8. More AmericaBlog whine.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:48 PM
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36. I guess the Whine wasn't enough..aravosis had to sensationalize
his whining with "Obama Blast the Dems"..maybe his whining wasn't getting enough attention?

I know "Blast the Dems" sure got a lot.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6545399
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:54 PM
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38. Yah - saw that too.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:56 PM
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10. They will bash Obama for anything over there.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:05 PM
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42. And make shit while they're at it..
"Olympia Snowe is playing Obama like a fiddle" by john aravosis

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8651887&mesg_id=8651887
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:58 PM
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12. john aravosis is full of shit.
I saw the interview..the President didn't "Blast the Dems".

"Obama blasts Dems in Congress for wanting to censure Joe "You Lie!" Wilson"
by John Aravosis (DC) on 9/14/2009 12:30:00 PM
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:10 PM
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16. Amen to that.
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 08:10 PM by HopeOverFear
I quit reading his blog months ago.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:12 PM
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18. +1
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Indigent Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:16 PM
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21. That's debatable
"Democratic leaders were looking into what formal action the House may take against Wilson, whose outburst during the Wednesday night address has rocked the lower chamber. On the list was a move to censure him."

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/58115-dems-may-move-to-censure-wilson
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:27 PM
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29. That aravosis is full of shit..he most
definetly is.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:04 PM
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41. John Aravosis is the left's version of Michele Bachmann.
He is an embarrassment to the left and to himself.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 11:20 PM
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46. That Aravosis Headline is total BULLSHIT, and anybody who thinks otherwise is naive
. . .at best
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:30 AM
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47. aravosis has no credibility left but still has his fans
who glom on to every negative Obama headline like it was the Holy Grail.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:33 PM
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31. The rest of Kroft's question: "There was talk of that today, now he's claiming that he's a victim -
that he's being attacked."
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:38 PM
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32. Here's exactly what "Kroft asked Mr. Obama":
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 08:38 PM by jenmito
Kroft: "Do you think that Congressman Wilson should be rebuked? There was talk of that today, now he's claiming that he's a victim - that he's being attacked."

Obama's response: (laughs) "See, this is part of what happens. It becomes a big circus. Instead of us focusing on Healthcare!"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6545399&mesg_id=6547681
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 08:58 PM
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39. Thanks, jenmito..for the full
quote.

:hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:40 PM
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44. My pleasure!
:hi:
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:01 PM
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40. Americablog is almost as anti-Obama as WorldNutDaily
and just about as credible.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:05 PM
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43. Americanblog must be quitely run by Right Wingers
The hate for Obama there is as bad as it is on Racist Free Republic.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 10:57 PM
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45. AmericaBlog? ROLF. That place is a shithole.
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